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    #16
    I was there in 1987 and at that time it was a youth hostel and restricted entry to most areas and no displays of SS items etc. Nice that they opened it up now.

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      #17
      some photos of Allach
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        #18
        some misc
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          #19
          Externensteine also worth a visit
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            #20
            Sky High club
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              #21
              the dark force is with you
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                #22
                Someone told me they put those paintings in there. That is too bad. It should be left the way it was historically.

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                  #23
                  Yes the paintings are there. Well, these things in Germany are hard to find in there historical condition. They always modify something even if its a place that is turned out to be a museum.
                  But pictures are forbidden in this hall so i cannot picture what was in it.
                  A guy told me they do not allow pictures, because they want to prevent neo nazis going there and making this place as a memorial or something.

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                    #24
                    Tip for anyone making a visit . . .

                    Beyond the castle, Thorsten mentions a lot of nice "overlooked" sights - all worth the extra effort to find.

                    As Robert points out, Externsteine is a must . . . And so is time at Hermannsdenkmahl. There are so many nice things to do in the area - beautiful places to be found all around the region.

                    Spending a week at the Youth Hostel, and getting to know some of the local inhabitants might just open a few extra doors on a visit - it worked wonders for us. :

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Peterm41 View Post
                      Yes the paintings are there. Well, these things in Germany are hard to find in there historical condition. They always modify something even if its a place that is turned out to be a museum.
                      But pictures are forbidden in this hall so i cannot picture what was in it.
                      A guy told me they do not allow pictures, because they want to prevent neo nazis going there and making this place as a memorial or something.
                      You can take photos with prior permission, if you follow the rules.

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                        #26
                        I visited Wewelsburg last year and it was well worth the visit. So much more then just the 3R era i.g. the fact that it's the only 3-towered castle in Germany. For any future visitors, try stamping hard on the center stone shown here, the echo is just out of this world!

                        cheers
                        Peter

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                          #27
                          Thanks Robert for posting the photo showing the Allach figures.

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                            #28
                            The black visor looks to be an Alteste fake, the insignia on the grey cap are also fake if not the whole cap .... representative pieces only I guess The tunic insignia are poor fakes as well of course.

                            Ian

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                              #29
                              Wewelsburg

                              Years ago when I worked at Tower Records in California, I was making little more than minimum wage, but I still somehow managed to buy an original Allgemeine SS visor cap. So why is it that a prestigious museum, with all it's medieval, historic splendor, can't manage to display a simple tunic and cap that doesn't look like it came from TRD?
                              As for them fretting over whether or not some neo-Nazi guys might consider Wewelsburg a shrine, they need to worry more about Muslims overrunning their country, and less about a few skinheads getting drunk and slobbering "Seig-Heil", unless they want that beautiful castle turned into a mosque. No hatin' - just sayin'. There already ARE Nazi shrines all over Germany and the United States. They're called "collections"......minus the candles.
                              Last edited by sgstandard; 09-16-2014, 07:27 PM.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
                                A. I would expect a concentration camp tunic to be field-grey. Why is it black - is it a "walking-out" tunic, or is it Allgemeine SS?
                                B. What's the verdict on that TK tab? I'm FAR from an SS cloth expert, but it
                                doesn't look right to me.
                                C. Also, I always get suspicious when I see 3 pips that don't match. The guy was an officer, for God's sake. Mismatched pips are possible, but in most cases, it indicates a made-up tab, because it's often difficult to find 3 pips that all match.
                                A. The "concentration camp tunic" or better yet, black SS-TV tunic might be a reproduction but is historically correct-field grey was used by the SS, as well the SS camp guards, but not until the later years of the organization. Black SS tunics were worn by the SS-TV, SS-VT and the SS-Allgemeine: additionally to answer the latter portion of your question, "is it Allgemeine SS?....no, it's not. As said often on many fora and in historical and reference books, not all black tunics are Allgemeine aka part-time service.
                                *Note SS-Allgemeine tunics are the ones with the numbers and such on their collar tabs.
                                B. Again, even though the tunic appears to be a reproduction, giving a definitive answer with these low quality photographs would be foolish.
                                C. One must judge an item in it's entirety, not on one aspect alone. "Pips" can easily break off, and when in the field or camp, a solider would've had to take whatever was available.

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