SS officer's visor on Ebay: sleeper or scam??

[willysproject]

Hello,

The ebay auction of this visor cap was just removed before the end of the auction... Did anyone of you follow it? Starting price: 1 euro.

IMO it looks like an Original Kleiderkasse CW cap, but quite a large sized one... (Hence the folded newspaper under the hood?

In a separate mail the seller also still has the removed insignia

I offered 2000 euro and it was agreed by the seller, but yet I went careful and declined... My ebay experience makes me quite suspicious in some cases. This was one of those cases...

Reasons why:
1. Seller doesn't take PayPal;
2. Seller doesn't want to meet up and arrange a 'pick up'. He only wants to send the cap out;
3. Seller only wants to be paid by bank transfer;
4. After asking a pic of the cap and today's newspaper I get a fussy pic of a cap the m i g h t be the very same one as listed;
5. The seller wasn't aware of the rather high price/offer, nor does he collect militaria. The other auctions and past auction were... yes: small militaria pieces like Erkennungsmarke etc...
6. Seller has 'only' 98% good feedback;
7. Seller is ebay member since 2014 according to his profile;
8. Even after areeing my offer, it was quite hard to get his name. After asking a photo of his passport to be sure he wasn't an alias I got a photoshopped photo of his driving licence . Name matched though. No residential address, nor Phone number... To me not a keen way to build trust IMO...

So all summed up: I bailed out. About 5 hours later someone did buy it it appears. I hope the buyer won't get ripped of. If not, he might have done a good deal!

Kind regards,
Gerd V

[willysproject]

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[willysproject]

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[Lou58]

HI Gerd, to me it's sounds like a scam, as I had it happened to me last year, I had my card down and the crook conned me. It was a total scam the crook didn't even own the item! I was lucky it was at a low price, I should of notice that, I got my money back via E-bays protection, but get this I notice that after every thing was over, the crook still had his E-bay account and that is after I had reported him as a crook!

Yep as I have stated before use a credit card on top of PayPay, and E-bay so you know you will get your'e money back.

Gerd to did the wright thing, as the warning signs you pick up saved you a headache!

Lou

[willysproject]

Hi,

I went there too... I 'won' an Original M44 Dot tunic on ebay for 1500 euro (buy-it-now)... What I got was a totally different tunic (cheap fake). Ebay didn't do a thing, but did receive the commission of course. Police didn't do a thing either. Every one was pointing to one another...
Now I know the drill better... So I passed this one...

Kind regards,
Gerd V

HI Gerd, to me it's sounds like a scam, as I had it happened to me last year, I had my card down and the crook conned me. It was a total scam the crook didn't even own the item! I was lucky it was at a low price, I should of notice that, I got my money back via E-bays protection, but get this I notice that after every thing was over, the crook still had his E-bay account and that is after I had reported him as a crook!

Yep as I have stated before use a credit card on top of PayPay, and E-bay so you know you will get your'e money back.

Gerd to did the wright thing, as the warning signs you pick up saved you a headache!

Lou

[tystgaard]

Yes

Hard to say.... but many scammers out there, so dont transfer alot of
Money to a stranger, with no name in the hobby. I would not play 50/50 with this kind of Money.

BR
Nicolai

[Wim Vangossum]

Oh dear, this sounds very scary in my ears. I would never play with such amounths of money with people you don't know anything about them Not my cup of tea to do business this way.


Regards, Wim

[LuckyStrike23]

in my opinion its the same with all kinds of gambling - at the end you are mostly the looser. For sure not my approach of collecting.

[Peterm41]

I hate ebay. Sometimes there are some nice items, mostly m43 or m41 tunics, sold by vets grandsons. But there are a lot of people, trying to scam you. That is why is too risky. And once comes to such a rare items like SS, i never trust ebay. A lot of fraudsters offer some nice looking item for a silly price saying "oh you know i found it at home, but i know nothing about it" and still they ask about 2000 USD for a item that normally coast about 4000. In the end you get cheep 40 USD repro or something.
It happend with me just once. I paid 300 EUR for officers tunic and i received a repro. I was lucky to have my money back. And i learned then - this things just dont happen to be found in ebay or such auction houses.

About 3 years ago, there was one original black SS m32 tunic on Ebay - sold for 1520 EUR. The seller had good feedback and the tunic was nice with correct holders, markings and cut.
Last year 2 nice SS m43 tunics were sold, but they were without pockets, modified for post war wear.

So its very rare to find a good one in this place, still it happens, but i would pass even if i see a good offer.

Just personal opinion.

Cheers

[stonemint]

The hat is bad.
Last time I can recall seeing a genuine SS visor on Ebay was back in 1999.

[norge]

The hat is bad.
Last time I can recall seeing a genuine SS visor on Ebay was back in 1999.

Bad..seem like a good one to me... CW late long hairy velvet..
Best
Gisle