SS cap badge maker id

[upbeek]

Hello gentlemen
I would like to ask if anybody would know the maker of this cap badge , im just going through some stuff and was curious about this little group I found just before Christmas, it came with this collar patch also and I think they belong together,

[upbeek]

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[Ian Hulley]

The rune tab is a very nice late-war original

Ian

[chahler]

Nice Original collar tab

[upbeek]

Thankyou for dating the collar patch but can anybody id the cap badge and date it,
Regards Chay

[Honor]

among others

[Stossgruppe3]

I like the red stitching in the tab .....
Regards
David

[Arran]

I like the red stitching in the tab .....
Regards
David

Me too! Not something I've seen before...