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    SS civil pin

    Found a another one today.
    Nice with the retainer pin.
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      #3
      Fine original!



      Regards, Wim






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        #4
        Nice example Robert!

        Best

        Emil

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          #5
          Congrats!

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            #6
            Very nice find ! A perfekt example.

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              #7
              The civil pin is obviously an original. What I find puzzling is the high number, 120817. I could be mistaken, and stand to be corrected, but the reference books say that there were never that many members of the Allgemine SS. The WSS did, but this is not a WSS pin.

              We are told that the numbers on the civil pin are not the member's SS number but a sequential number granted in order of application.

              If these facts are correct, how could there be that many men in the Allgemine SS?

              If that many civil pins were granted, they should be readily available, and as we know, they are comparatively rare.

              I own 13185, which is within the range of total membership.

              Any member have any thoughts on this?
              Last edited by Gary Symonds; 12-05-2013, 06:11 PM.

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                #8
                nice one. You need a FM book to go with it! I thought the pins went to civilian supporters, not the actual ss troops. This was brought up some time ago, that the numbers were not reflective of the serial numbers of soldiers.

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                  Pin Number

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                  Last edited by C. Betz; 12-05-2013, 08:56 PM.

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                    #10
                    Pin Number

                    Could be a membership number of the SS civil organization or a party membership number.

                    Charles Betz

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                      #11
                      Hello Gary,

                      in Ulrics book Inside the Allg. SS you find some detail of the regulations.
                      The Z.A number system has its own number system, no correlated to the SS membership. On p.293 you see Christian Weber SSNr. 265902 from early 37 with his Z.A. number 142230. As well another document is shown where the Z.A. number is 160374, that was mid of 1938.


                      thanks guys for your reply, case was with this pin but not the known right one style ... thoses cases are totaly rare.

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