Originally posted by Felix
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Anyway I only want to spend $1000 - 2000 now.
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Yes, I agree that prices are down right now, that's one of the reasons I'm looking for a bargain, as long as it is real of course. The skull ones are the highest priced I see online, going for about $5000. From their appearances online, I don't think they are THAT rare, maybe collectors like the skull?Anyway I only want to spend $1000 - 2000 now.
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Avoid the bullion ones, study the flatwire types on the forum VERY closely.Originally posted by BrianK View PostThe skull ones are the highest priced I see online, going for about $5000. From their appearances online, I don't think they are THAT rare, maybe collectors like the skull?Anyway I only want to spend $1000 - 2000 now.
Try a search on the word 'caravelle'
and 3 amigos 
and you'll see why.
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If you can wait and save up for them the Flatwire ones are very nice.
One site in the US has a bunch of them for sale but I think his prices are way over the top right now. Or it might just be me......
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Brian,Originally posted by BrianK View PostYes, I agree that prices are down right now, that's one of the reasons I'm looking for a bargain, as long as it is real of course. The skull ones are the highest priced I see online, going for about $5000. From their appearances online, I don't think they are THAT rare, maybe collectors like the skull?Anyway I only want to spend $1000 - 2000 now.
we are now getting into the nuances of cuffband collecting! It may seem that there are lots of skull (I assume Oberbayern?) bands out there but there are not (some are fake) and the pricing will be differentiated hugely by what type (and there are several) it is. What they all share regardless of their rarity is desirability - and this is something to learn about as well. LAH Bevo not rare but desirable for example.
The most desirable tend to be TK and TV bands which have certainly not fallen in price/value.
With a budget of c.$2K you can choose between (again for example) a nice off tunic Das Reich RZM - or both a mint Florian Geyer AND a mint Reinhard Heydrich in Bevo - I know which option I would go for! But it's all about personal preference....
In response to Felix's comment, my opinion is that you can actually spot the Bevo fakes quite quickly ( again research this forum) once you know what to look for, whereas the bullion bands can be (unless the obviously crude type) very hard to discern for a starter - particularly if they are seen as a photo rather than in hand. There are several on the forum that have been OK'd by other members that I would not want in my collection (and I've had some of them in hand).
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The cuff title at the top in this image is the rarest version of all SS cuff titles.
At last count, there were 6 known examples in collections today
This one, is in the best condition of them all and resides with the good "doctor"
Chris
p.s. the lower cuff title is no easy find either and very, very desirableComment
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Matin Stiles in the UK
If you want as much piece of mind as possible here is my take on the subject:
Hannahs Reich - UK aka Martin Stiles long established SS collector/dealer
Helmut Weitze - Germany solid as one can be with excellent sales policy
This is not a cheap area of endeavour, buy cheap buy twice at your peril !
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Yes the Oberbayern/skull cufftitle is fascinating as there are different varieties, bevo, flatwire, etc. There also are a lot of fakes. But I'm saving that for the future. Right now I'll settle for nice, genuine examples of the more common cufftitles. The very first TR items I bought, and turned out be fakes, were SS cufftitles. I bought them not from a big dealer, but from a kindly looking old vet at a local show who guaranteed me that they were genuine. By time I found out they were fake, he had died or disappeared. Others might have discouraged, but by that time I was hooked, and determined never to be fooled again.
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We've all been there and bought that particular T-Shirt Brian!
Good luck and let us know what you get
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That top cuff has the aesthetic appeal of a dog turd on a fur coat.Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
Talk about cuff titles going from a ridiculous bizarre monkey head to one of the most evil looking skulls devised by the SS. Those two win the prize!!!
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That top cuff has the aesthetic appeal of a dog turd on a fur coat.Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
Talk about cuff titles going from a ridiculous bizarre monkey head to one of the most evil looking skulls devised by the SS. Those two win the prize!!!
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Originally posted by TonyS View PostThat top cuff has the aesthetic appeal of a dog turd on a fur coat.
Talk about cuff titles going from a ridiculous bizarre monkey head!!!
I might be wrong Tony,
there may only be 4 of the "ridiculous bizarre monkey head's" known in collections today. I will not mention what sort of $K's these appealing dog turds can change hands for. You would have to ask the doctor that
What they lack in aesthetics, they make up for in rarity. I suppose another case of "what one man calls poison, others call pleasure" or "beauty lies in the eye of the beholder"
Chris
Originally posted by David B. View PostOriginally posted by Greg Domian View PostOriginally posted by Dr. Strangelove View PostOriginally posted by TomH View PostAnother of these incredibly rare cuff bands has surfaced recently from a haul of TK insignia attributed to one man.
If we are lucky, maybe the forum member who has it, will post pictures
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What book is that at the bottom of the photo?Comment
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