leather dagger SS

[guigui]

Hello
I ask your opinion on these ties dagger.
I made a post in specialist daggers, but people na answered.
false or time???
thank you in advance to all who will take the time to answer me.
guigui
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[Stossgruppe3]

They certainly look to be period / old ..... but who knows ?
Regards
David

[m-e-h-t]

they are period for sure. But made for a x-straps. The ones for daggers mostly had a square loop.

[The Red Baron]

they are period for sure. But made for a x-straps. The ones for daggers mostly had a square loop.

I don't know about that.,,,

[wewelsburg]

Square rings are for Y straps,OR postwar.
The same style rounded ring is for BOTH daggers and crosstraps.And they were used on both,the ones that have wider leather are for thicker officer type belts.Pebbled ones are supposed to be used with tunics,solid nickel or chromed look are for brownshirts.At least pre-war with Political Organisations including SS.BUt ofcourse I said supposed to be,men did different things.Dagger loops are stamped usually more on the leather itself,as they come loose.With cross straps usually on the longer strap for over the shoulder.Stamps on the rings liek this are rarer seen,could be dagger or strap really except the white one.The white one looks like for the white parade honor cross strap like LAH wore,or drum hanger waist flap etc etc no dagger has a white leather loop for SS,or sword for that matter.Unless they used a white strap in parade for the dagger,never saw one though.

BTW real ones are usually dyed only one one side,with brown GOOD smooth leather on inside not rough looking like te one above,,the leather on these black ones looks cheap like post war examples,OR late war,NOT right for Early cross straps!maybe waffen equipment straps?although those usually have square rings.Im questioning this now.Possibly good rings bad leather,both stamps are the same on totally different aged and quality of leather?I have doubts about them now.

Actually I think the stamps are added my final say,I bet the rings are light aluminum quality anent they?If so def bogus.