late rzm eagle & civil member pin

[inimicus]

terrible pix I'm sorry to say (the pin reverse is totally unfocused). but....? thanks a lot.

[inimicus]

pin

[Totenhead]

Cant comment on the pin but the eagle looks good to me

[inimicus]

THANKS DEATHHEAD. anyone else please? HERE'S THE ONLY PIC OF PIN REVERSE - dreadful!

[J. Wraith]

Pin is good but should have better photos on the small chance its off some way.

[Lupara]

I'm going to hazard a guess but keep in mind I am a total amateur so better to wait for more experienced members.

Eagle looks good as far as I can tell.

Can't tell you about the pin. Not only because the pics are to blurry but because I know nothing of those things

[inimicus]

thanks gents!


'I thought this was a manly hobby for manly men,now I find out I need to be an expert on sewing,fabrics and embroidery.' yeh but that's why god created wives and girlfriends!

[Ian Hulley]

The eagle is an original 'shrugging eagle' as found at the Dachau clothing works.

Ian

[inimicus]

thanks ian; means a lot. it's what I'd thought. I like your 'shrugging eagle' descriptor.

[inimicus]

after saying I wanted a clear pic of the marks and not getting one yet I asked if there was knurling on the pin. here's the pic of that and a little of the insignia if it helps thanks again.

[inimicus]

I sort of like the green crud on the abzeichen and am feeling better about this item.

[Ian Hulley]

I sort of like the green crud on the abzeichen

It's called 'verdigris' ... be careful as this now available as a paint/drip on extra on fake badges.

Ian

[J. Wraith]

after saying I wanted a clear pic of the marks and not getting one yet I asked if there was knurling on the pin. here's the pic of that and a little of the insignia if it helps thanks again.

Does not need to have a knurled pin although most do, knurled pins do not mean original either. Now that photo makes it worse and you need to know if the markings are impressed or raised.

[inimicus]

quite right ian; good reminder!

It's called 'verdigris' ... be careful as this now available as a paint/drip on extra on fake badges.

Ian

[inimicus]

I did a macro on the pic and this is strange: note the letters on the mark (which now do seem raised) that 'bleed' into the guy's thumbnail !!

and, do any fakes have raised lettering? thanks again for all.