Hello fellow collectors, can you please tell me what you think of this eagle. In my opinion it's a reproduction.... but, I am not sure yet. Help is welcome...
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The back looks suspicious to me... -
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...Its a repro in my opinion! Its a poor cast repro! Bad detailing!
/FelixComment
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Yes... the feathers on his/her breast are poorly detailed... and the material is not so strong as real ones... It bents more easily.Comment
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Actually, I believe this is cast from a Deschler eagle. It has the Deschler head.
The Assmann's have a rounded beak.
Best, ChrisComment
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Chris,Originally posted by SScollector
I think you will find it is rzm ss marked 155/36
cheers,
GaryComment
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here is another picture of the same type of fakeLast edited by Gary Wood; 08-29-2008, 07:11 PM.Comment
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and here is another example of the same fake, they are also now altering the year date on this fakeLast edited by Gary Wood; 08-29-2008, 07:11 PM.Comment
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Hi Gary,
I know it is marked 155, but they probably used a Deschler, (or a 394/35 which looks very similar to the Deschlers), for the front side of the casting and an Assmann for the back. I have seen this plenty of times, (the wrong eagle fronts that do not match the backs). You'll see this on the buckles as well.
I have seen many repros of the Overhoff pattern SS officer's buckles with the Emil Juttner back, etc. Of course, it's possible that it could just be the way it came out in the casting, but I seriously doubt that.
It is clearly the other style front. The chest feathers are also different on the Assmanns. Best, ChrisComment
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Originally posted by Gary Wood
IMO when you see new pins soldered in next to the stubs of previous
pins like that it is probably a fake casting of a fake. Especially since
the old stubs are so rounded off and the detail is so poor all over the
rest of the eagle. Who knows how many castings back you would have
to go to get to the original bird, which may have had it's pins intact.
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It has donned on me that this type of fake may not be meant to
deceive. You have to admit that it would be that much more convincing
if the old stubs were ground off and the new pins were soldered in
directly in their place. As they are, it is an obvious give-away and
should fool no one with any experience at all.Comment
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Well, the eagle I posted was once bought from Helmut Weitze.... in my less experienced days.
It has no marking what so ever.... the pins are the give a away.. I wished all fakes were like that.
Is true that originals are much studier than reproductions?
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fred,Originally posted by Fred
I know you have the eagle in your hand, but if you look in the lower wings on the left side you should see 155/36, i can see traces of marking in your picture above,
cheers,
GaryComment
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Yes, you are right!! It says 155/36....Great work Gary!Comment
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