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    #16
    Things may be getting mixed here.

    Somehow in quickly reading the posts here it seems that all the items are being linked (maybe not the right word) or attributed to Gestapo. That should not be the case. What Jay V showed as "identity" cards (not IDs) are that, and I will include information provided about them. The other items probably have nothing to do with Gestapo except that they were in the box of items that were discovered in the old Gestapo headquarters in Prigue in 1997 prior to my obtaining them. Why they would hav been there in a box is an open question. The set of "identity" cards, missing the first couple, came in that box along with a Gestapo ID that is not shown as he does not have it. Also in that box were the orders, also original and in two sets numbering one hell of a lot of pages) about procedures to be used after the war. They remain with me. As to any question of the "identity" cards worth, that is up to the individual(s) opinion(s). No, they are clearly not "official" documents printed prior to the end of the war which relate to Gesatpo/Sipo or any third Reich organization. They are period, and at least from my standpoint they are the only set that I have seen in some 30 years of collecting.
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    At the end of WW2 the Justice Department was in charge of promulgating throughout Europe the procedures, lines of communication, forms.. literally everything that dealt with post-war search/seizure and the search for war criminals. Packets of cards were developed, especially within certain known areas of concentrations of those the Allies wanted, that detailed for security guard posted at check points, borders, and the like those that te Allies believed should be detained, processed, and sent forward as potential war criminals. What you have is the only such set that I have ever come into contact with or possessed. Since they would have been constantly used in the field, it's reasonable to think that very few survived, and in the case of the Prague set it may be the only one known. It is to me. The statement relates how it got to me. Of the set, only the first couple of cards are missing which could very well just be the fact that those individuals, who would have been the most important, probably had been captured or accounted for. Since the pack is from the Gestapo headquarters in Prague, it reasonable to presume that it deals with those in that area being sought. They are absolutely period. I have the original box that they came in from Prague to Vienna, to me. The Gestapo ID which was the focus of the contents at the time began the dialog that I had with Don Bible whom I've known for many years and in whose books are several of my Gestapo/Kripo/Sipo pieces. The two identity personal ausweis/cards that I included also were in the box, and I have no idea why, except that they, too, were from individuals in the Prague area. The protocols, also original paper documents, in the statement are also in my possession. There are also maybe 50 to 100 mostly unidentified photos, both civilian and military, of individuals male and female. For some reason some individual, probably an Allied MP or security individual who was there at the wars end when the building was used by the Allies, packed it all into the maybe 12X24 inch box and put it in a closet in the Gestapo headquarters building, leaving it there until it was found in 1997.
    Last edited by Jay Gillespie; 09-12-2012, 10:33 AM.

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      #17
      Buy the item(s), not the story.
      And the items are not Gestapo related except for the ID card, that it's very likely a "wanted" card made after the end of the war.
      End of the story, I'm afraid, but we are talking about stuff worthing at best maybe 50$ IMO.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Jay V. View Post
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        Hi, you look here - #6
        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=356632

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          #19
          The papercloth document is for a guy who worked in an employment office, the Ausweis is permission for a Luftwaffe soldier to visit Paris.

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            #20
            Thanks Guys for the info.

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