Once Upon A Time in Germany..........

[Robin Lumsden]

A silly question... but after initiating an anti german genocide... how do you qualify to get a Division named after yourself?

Chris.
It's not a silly question. It's something I've often wondered about myself. I suppose it's because the French regarded Charlemagne as a national hero that Himmler must have 'relented' by allowing the French division to take his name. That and the fact that, despite his purge against the Saxons, Charlemagne came to be regarded as Emperor of the Germans in his capacity as Holy Roman Emperor. The (French) map below shows Charlemagne's empire at its height. It takes in most of Germany. So I suppose Himmler's view of Charlemagne was much like his view of 'Skanderbeg' when it came to awarding divisional names particularly suited to ethnic units - Iskander Beg was not an archetypal Germanic hero either!
Regards,
Robin.

[Richard]

Great thread and intriguing story! What a great read. Still mystified by your comment on a "clue" that you have in the thread Robin. Is it a clue as to what actually happened to the rings?
Richard V

[Robin Lumsden]

Great thread and intriguing story! What a great read. Still mystified by your comment on a "clue" that you have in the thread Robin. Is it a clue as to what actually happened to the rings?
Richard V

...........the clue IS there, for all the amateur detectives.........and Indiana Joneses...........

[Robin Lumsden]

The SS had their own child-naming ceremonies.............

[Robin Lumsden]

......held at special SS altars..............with Wewelsburg as the centre of the new religion.

[Robin Lumsden]

Some SS officers let the whole Wewelsburg thing go to their heads. Obergruppenfuehrer Oswald Pohl, for instance, chief of administrative and economic affairs for the entire SS........

[Robin Lumsden]

Had himself painted as a 'knight in shining armour', complete with a swastika on his sword hilt.......

[münster]

Detektor Alert

I have a detektor,would any forum members in Germany like to join me going to this castle????????? We could all try,,,this means you too Gerd Becker!

[Etienne B.]

would join in a minute !!

[Eric K.]

Hi Robin

Its looking like it might be possible to put together a little team for the "German Job".

From the Forum a splendid little team could be assembled.

If I read it right Flieger from the German military could "borrow" an APC and a lorry with some unexpolded bomb signs......

There are other members with access to mine detecting equipment.....

You could provide the "brains" and police liasion.....

The rest of us could do the digging..

As long as we don't drive the coach over the edge of a cliff on the way back we would be home and dry.

as ever

Mark

Now that sounds like a plan!! We can mark the whole place off it could be joint military operation
Eric.

[Robin Lumsden]

If you guys strike it lucky, I hope you keep a couple of rings back for me.......

[pete]

Rings

If you need any tips on how to do a proper effective search or any technical questions just PM!

Sorry i have to go back to The Minefield soon but if you have a future date maybe i could join you from Zagreb!

Pete

[Blindpew]

This has been totally top stuff Outstanding!-Many thanks Robin.
Scares the pant's off me though, as all I've thought about is a film from the eighties? directed by Michael Mann- "The Keep", taken from a book by Paul Wilson, starring Jürgen Prochnow,(his first "big break"). Not very sucessfull but worth a watch if you have never seen.(one version was very badly edited though).

Watch what your digging for lads......it may be more than a few rings you find....

[MMM]

Finders Keepers?

Looks like the "German Job" might be becoming possible.

How does the law stand in Germany?, can you just turn up and dig or will will need Fleiger and his signs, do you need permission at Wewelsburg?

More importantly, if you find the rings who do they belong to? the State, the Town Council or the lucky guys who found them?

I am sure Robin deserves a couple for starting this thread

I don't want to see him crying in his beer if we can work out his clue.

best regards

MMM

[münster]

Mark,,do I seem like a guy who asks permission to metal detekt?? And if I found a mother load off ss rings! The terrain in the foto of the castle looks well wooded,,,not a prrrroblemmmmmmm