since it has a skull.....

[DaveJ]

I will post this here to start, and perhaps on the flag forum, I believe it to be a panzer pennant, never seen another one and it is not one of the hooky fakes you see, so what is it?,

[DaveJ]

the reverse

[DaveJ]

here is a close up of the skull, you can see the work and construction is very good,coarse wool as found on other period battle flags

[Stephan Wahl]

I'm not real good at the different insignias of the SS, outside of the Skull itself. On the back there, the Z with the line through it; isn't that the SS/Wierwolf insignia, or am I mistaken?

[ReichsHeini]

I think the Z is the vehicle emblem used by SS Polizei division.
Also this does not appear to be a wool flag but rather a linen flag.
Jerry

[DaveJ]

it feels like wool,

does not react to UV
Dave

[Robin Lumsden]

Dave.

I've never seen another like this, but I like it a lot.

The skull and wolf hook were also used by a number of other organisations, especially the HJ and DJ. Many local units designed their own pennants, and the totenkopf and wolfsangel often featured on them. So it could be youth-related.

Regards,

Robin.

[DaveJ]

Thanks Robin,

I did not knot that about the youth using TKs, I hope to one day find out what it is,
Dave

[Robin Lumsden]

Thanks Robin,

I did not knot that about the youth using TKs, I hope to one day find out what it is,
Dave

I have a large DJ pennant with a skull on one side and a sigrune on the other. The HJ and DJ were encouraged to look on themselves as 'future SS men' so they adopted many symbols associated with the SS - skulls and runes in particular.

[ReichsHeini]

Even though you cannot be certain which group to attribute this pennant, I think this is a very nice looking piece. It does not look anything like the fake stuff on the market.
My previous point about not being wool was just that the TK looks to be made out of the same type of linen you see on KM battle flags and such.
Jerry

[Robin Lumsden]

Dave.


Here's the DJ pennant I was talking about. The other side is the usual DJ design of white sigrune on black. This TK always reminds me of Cherie Blair - I think it's the stupid grin.

[Robin Lumsden]

All of these 'unofficial' TK pennants derived from this 'official' one - the lance pennant of the Prussian Leibhusaren. This one is for Leibhusar Rgt. Nr.2. The 1st Regiment was identical, but with a white skull on black.

[Gary Wood]

"This TK always reminds me of Cherie Blair"

Hell Robin you are right, the resemblance's are uncanny
cheers,
Gary

[DaveJ]

Robin,

Thanks for showing your pennants, you read my mind,what do you think a fair market value would be on mine?
Dave

[Robin Lumsden]

Robin,

Thanks for showing your pennants, you read my mind,what do you think a fair market value would be on mine?
Dave

Dave.
I would guess about $700 or thereabouts.
Cheers.
Robin.