Shoulder Board Piping color, light Brown ??

[Tom Piotro]

Picked up a small grouping today, in the group was this single shoulder board.
I cant tell if color is light brown , copper brown or a faded orange which I don;t think it is.
The 2 NCO lace bars both slide so I don't believe they are in the correct position , just as found.
Could someone with a good eye for color piping make out the color.
And for the big question , what branch of service ?
Tom

[Johnny R]

To me it looks like Bau, the tresse loops would be for and officer candidate, they would normally be worn on the bottom part of the board together below the pip.

[naxos]

Rank is Fahnenjunker-Feldwebel

[Ian Hulley]

I'm amazed this hasn't been touted as SS KL piped.

Ian

[Johnny R]

I'm amazed this hasn't been touted as SS KL piped.

Ian

I saw the tongue looks black but to me it looks like the board body is very dark green?

[naxos]

I saw the tongue looks black but to me it looks like the board body is very dark green?

I'm under the same assumption

[Tom Piotro]

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I will follow up with photos of area 's with questions.
Top of board is defiantly black not even the slightly ting of green color.
Bottom of board is field grey, strap back is black wool, under side of strap is black gabardine.
As far as possibly of being SS , I can only hope !
Photos were taken in full sunlight, I will take a few more in out of bright light.
Here is photo of full grouping it was with !
Tom

[Johnny R]

If it is black then it is SS and would be for camps.

[Tom Piotro]

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[Tom Piotro]

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[Tom Piotro]

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[Rob83]

I'm amazed this hasn't been touted as SS KL piped.

Ian

That's what I thought at first. I remember a thread in the Barto's Forum regarding a questionable tunic that had a similar color piping to it.

[Richard P]

Definitely an SS board, no question, and most likely camp guard as it appears copper-brown.

Richard

[Tom Piotro]

Thank you all for the input so far.
My only decent reference book on SS insignia is Angolia's Cloth Insignia of the SS, from 1983 so very much out of date.
In Angolia's book copper/brown was reconnaissance till mid 40's and light brown was concentration camp starting mid 40's. I know much of the information in many older books is incorrect or incomplete.
Is Angolia's book correct on piping information time periods?
So for me the question still is what color is piping?
I understand the skepticism on anything SS , this is out of the woodwork. When I first looked at the board in a basement I could not tell what the true color was. It was only after looking at it in decent light I could narrow it down to 2 colors.
Would I premature in having this moved to the SS board??
Tom

[besslein]

this is SS kl board,no question.but this litzen strips are aded later.