Ss tk photo

[papa schulz]

HELLO GUYS i need help to identify this TK unity
with shoulderstaps and collar tab , i dont find her in my books ????
thanks

[C. Betz]

Picture

Can't say for sure what unit. Here’s another image with the same insignia being worn. (Angolia, Cloth Insignia of the SS, 2nd Edition, 1989, Pages 190-91.)

Perhaps someone can identify which branch the B on the strap belongs to. Could not find in Angolia’s book under Waffen-SS or Totenkopverbande.

Charles Betz

[Obergruppen2]

Pre-war SS Totenkopfverbande, too many books and so little time but i should find it during the day

[Ian Hulley]

Perhaps the straps are from the IInd Totenkopf Standarte 'Brandenburg' ?

Ian

[derek]

Has Ian states The shoulderboard does indeed indicate the SS-TV regiment Brandenburg.
Derek

[papa schulz]

im ok for brandenburg standarte
thanks gentlemens

but we can see a number in the collar tab

maybe it's not 5 but 3 for the third Hundertschaft
because each SSTv STANDARTE has 4 Hundertschafts !

[derek]

No, it is definitely a 5.
This man is in the second sturmbann (company) of the regiment. At this time his company would have been comprised of four hundertschaften, numbers 5 to 8.
Derek

[C. Betz]

Information

Thanks to all who replied.

Charles Betz

[derek]

Interestingly, as one of my eagle-eyed colleagues has pointed out, it looks like the number has been picked out and it is just the trace of it that remains. That would probably place the picture at about 1939/1940.
Derek

[krikke1980]

Here's another picture of same tunic from a Brandenburg SS man.
Note the Roman number 'I', which isn't picked out.
Imo, the picture that started the topic shows a picked out Roman 'I' aswell.

[krikke1980]

He's attached to the staff of the I. Sturmbann of 2.Totenkopf-Regiment Brandenburg.

[krikke1980]

As we all know, the insignia of the Totenkopfverbände, is quit complicated and is for many among us quit unlogic.
I found this interesting text on the internet which gives a better view into their organisation and their used insignia.

Organisationstructure Totenkopfverbände

Tabel 1
SS-Totenkopfverbände in 1936

Unit: Commander: Concentrationcamp:

I Totenkopfsturmbann "Oberbayern"
Otto-Friedrich Augustini
Dachau

II Totenkopfsturmbann "Elbe"
Erwin Reitz
Lichtenburg

III Totenkopfsturmbann "Sachsen"
Max Simon
Sachsenburg

IV Totenkopfsturmbann "Ostfriesland"
Otto Reich
Esterwegen

V Totenkopfsturmbann "Brandenburg"
Michael Lippert
Oranienburg en Columbia-Haus

Tabel 2
SS-Totenkopfverbände in 1937

Unit: Commander:

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 1 "Oberbayern"
Max Simon

I Totenkopfsturmbann
Helmut Becker

II Totenkopfsturmbann
Eduard Deisenhofer

III Totenkopfsturmbann
Heinrich Scheingraber

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 2 "Brandenburg"
Otto Reich

IV Totenkopfsturmbann
Marcus Habben

V Totenkopfsturmbann
Max Gebhardt

VI Totenkopfsturmbann
Heinrich Petersen

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 3 "Thüringen"
Paul Nostitz

VII Totenkopfsturmbann
Heimo Hierthes

Tabel 3
SS-Totenkopfverbände in 1938

Unit: Commander:

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 1 "Oberbayern"
Max Simon

I Totenkopfsturmbann
Helmut Becker

II Totenkopfsturmbann
Eduard Deisenhofer

III Totenkopfsturmbann
Karl Künstler

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 2 "Brandenburg"
Paul Nostitz
I Totenkopfsturmbann
Willi Dusenschön

II Totenkopfsturmbann
Heinrich Braun

III Totenkopfsturmbann
Heinrich Petersen

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 3 "Thüringen"
Paul Nostitz

I Totenkopfsturmbann
Walther Bellwidt

II Totenkopfsturmbann
Kurt Weisse

III Totenkopfsturmbann
Max Gebhardt

SS-Totenkopfstandarte 4 "Ostmarck"
Otto Reich