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    #16
    Originally posted by Mark C. Yerger View Post
    But this KC holders tunic I'd guess if the tunic were on a table many collectors would pass by or assume parts, etc
    I have one EXACTLY like this for sale, Mark - just for you . . . but it has no "provenance" to go along with it. You could hold it up to this photo, and it would be a complete match . . . I am only asking $25K - will you pay in cash, or should I extend you credit on "Layaway" . . . ???

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      #17
      As an Obersturmbannführer and KC holder (latter often got a discount or free uniform parts as tailor advertising, aside from having needed costs at that rank) these 2 taken in France during the 1942 divisional rebuild so both being months away from the front. 1 studio, 1 in a training class (he was the regimental commander). Note SS 3" tab on coat being early, tunic later. Not a costs factor, Kumm told me preferred if kept by pre-war officers to show members at that time.
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        #18
        Similar non-factory made made insignia, 1935 Junkerschule Braunschweig graduate in 1936 after being commissioned
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          #19
          I think the most striking thing about the photo at the start of this thread is the application of the Ostmedaille ribbon. I suspect that most collectors would assert that this was a post-war add-on, if this tunic was offered for sale.

          Pointy collars were a fashion statement that was not specific to any particular military branch. Plenty of Heer tunics with this tailored feature as well.

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            #20
            The insignias ..collar tabs in the last photo are standard..however the number was removed...I have seen a Tunic in Steve Wolfes home with a tab like this and you can see where the number was removed on close exam. There are more than a few photos out there of this type tab with the number removed.

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              #21
              I still think there is somthing non-standard with the field cap on the soldier on the right of the photo. Maybe it is my resolution, but I do not see flaps secured by the buttons.

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                #22
                Originally posted by John Pic View Post
                The insignias ..collar tabs in the last photo are standard..however the number was removed...I have seen a Tunic in Steve Wolfes home with a tab like this and you can see where the number was removed on close exam. There are more than a few photos out there of this type tab with the number removed.

                Agreed.

                Not being picky but wouldn't it me more likely a letter removed than number if he's SS-VT or SS-TV?

                Chris.

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                  #23
                  Many period photos and especiallly nice Albums tell the best story. I still enjoy my Weidinger album where he wears as well his tabs in the front style in Russia.

                  Always nice to see, the letter removed early style tab. Love em all.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Robert H View Post
                    Many period photos and especiallly nice Albums tell the best story. I still enjoy my Weidinger album where he wears as well his tabs in the front style in Russia.

                    Always nice to see, the letter removed early style tab. Love em all.
                    Welcome back, Robert!

                    Would it be THE Otto Weidinger album in your collection by any chance?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by NickG View Post
                      Modified M36 style collars (on M40 or later tunics) with pointy collar tips are usually NCO or officer upgrades
                      (as my tunic illustrates) but NOT always!
                      Here seen on enlisted men! Very pointy! Note also Heer cap eagle!
                      this is my m37 (m36 modified) tunic with reworked collar, it has pointy collar, not as picture shown by Nick, but for sure more pointy than usual
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                        #26
                        Baum told me simple costs. They had the option to remove the "B" on their Junkerschule tab and the less than "factory style" other tab. Rather spend the money on leave after graduation !!

                        Same "oddity" with blade collectors who find 1 photo of an SS oficer with an Army sword and think it was "authorized for SS." They weren't. Just a studio an officer would stop in for a photo, not have his sword, and they'd have one there for the most common customers (Luft and Army). They had no SS as a presented blade. Several KC holders I met got free portraits as the studio used the fact a KC holder was there for his portrait as advertisement.

                        Many countries do not wear the highest decoration. Dozens told me when on leave wearing a KC, tables at restaurants became available instantly, people gave seats on trains, etc. The "rock stars" of the period and deservedly so. Most from smaller towns were given a parade after the award when they came home for their next leave.

                        I wish all countries, and civil populations, did such things for their bravest. And that reaction lasted after the war in many circles and places, as I can state by experience.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by sdesember View Post
                          Welcome back, Robert!

                          Would it be THE Otto Weidinger album in your collection by any chance?

                          It came out from his household in Würzburg. The album was a present from him to his moms 60´s Birthday. Very very very nice!

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                            #28
                            Weidinger was a best of friend and mentor, you'll find a lot of his personal master album in many of my books related to "Das Reich." His wife Annaliese lived into her 90s. And he could make me laugh hysterically.
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                              #29
                              Neat that the TK NCO uniform has LW tresse on the collar!

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                                #30
                                Yes, early tresse. no doubt about war time sewn.

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