SS skull button insignia

[Dedman]

Hi!
My friend asked me for opinion on this button. I am quite sure, it´s OK, but would be pleased for expert view.

Thank you.

Best

Dedman

[Dedman]

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[Dagaz]

(...) I am quite sure, it´s OK, (...)

Hello Dedman,

I disagree with your opinion. The buttons which are marked with M5/8 are fakes in my mind.

The button on your picture could be one of the first-generation fakes of this style.


Regards Dagaz

[Winkelman]

Certainly not the usual M5/8 fake below . Can't say I ever saw this particular version before ..

[Dedman]

Thank you for your comments...
According to my last info, this button should be a ,,ground find" about 25 years ago...

So there´s a question, who´s right?

Best

Dedman

[Dagaz]

Hello Dedman,

so let`s wait for other opinions. But my knowledge is, that no metal insignia should start with the number "5" in the RZM system.

Regards Dagaz

[Winkelman]

Metal INSIGNIA would carry an M1 code , but M5 would stand for uniform accessories , e.g. BUTTONS .
And even when actually worn as an insignia only , it can be viewed as such , since M5-69 is indeed an existing good code for this type of button / insignia ( for M. Winter, München ) .
But there is more ..

[Winkelman]

I think I did find that same skull-type - it was shown by MARC VERSTRAETE before , and now it's getting interesting .
The reverse showed the logo for ASSMANN , and guess what makers code they had for uniform accessories .. ?

[Winkelman]

M5-8 .. !

So now we either have 2 cleverly concieved fakes -
OR we can add Assmann / M5-8 as a legit maker for skull buttons ? This aside the common fake M5-8 with a completely different skull .

I think it's time for the true experts to step in now , as this MAY be a discovery ( or did the firm of Assmann simply indulge in some postwar fake production ) .. ?

[Dedman]

Now it´s getting really interesting for me...
Looking forward for a final judgement!

Thank you all

Dedman

[istra63]

original skull buttons should only have 1 row of teeth.

[SScollector]

original skull buttons should only have 1 row of teeth.

This is incorrect.

Best, Chris

[Arran]

It could be a good example of a scarce variation. Robin L. has discussed this pattern before, I think. Is he still around?