SS Prinz Eugen tunic

[H-U Rudel]

Hello,

what do you think aboutz this tunic?

http://www.militaria321.com/auktion/...Traumst%C3%BCc

kind regards

Uli

[Ian Hulley]

The Kai Winkler COA would ring alarm bells for a start but it appears that some of the parts may be original.

Ian

[H-U Rudel]

Thank you Ian!

And what about this Obersturmführer tunic?

http://www.militaria321.com/auktions...tionID=5885264

[Ian Hulley]

Again looks like a mix & match but it's hard to tell without clear images. Detlev Niemann COA as well eh ?

[Thorsten B.]

Mix and match?!

Ian,

I am not really into uniforms but am always willing to learn.

What is meant in detail with "mix and match" - what is good/bad in your opinion and how can one determine so quickly?

Are there specific details that indeed can be immediately detected as being fake/original?

Could you specify your statement, please?

[Ian Hulley]

You can't see any detail from the photos but the eagle is much more worn that other insignia (but looks good) ... I have replied to Uli's PM and strongly advised him to post detailed photos here asap.

While not a 100% definate reason to be suspicious but €3,000 for an untouched SS officers tunic with a Niemann COA and on 321 Militaria auctions .... far too many red flags to just accept things at face-value. Let the real experts study it.

Ian

[Dr. Strangelove]

While not a 100% definate reason to be suspicious but €3,000 for an untouched SS officers tunic with a Niemann COA and on 321 Militaria auctions .... far too many red flags to just accept things at face-value. Let the real experts study it.

Ian[/QUOTE]

Yes, it appears to have all the provenance of a cheese sandwich that I am about to eat.

[H-U Rudel]

While not a 100% definate reason to be suspicious but €3,000 for an untouched SS officers tunic with a Niemann COA and on 321 Militaria auctions .... far too many red flags to just accept things at face-value. Let the real experts study it.

Ian

Yes, it appears to have all the provenance of a cheese sandwich that I am about to eat.[/QUOTE]

So you think the tunic isn't good? Can you please give me more detail information?

Kind regards

Uli

[Thorsten B.]

Yes, Dr., please!

[John Pic]

Why is the seller of the Obersturmfuhrer tunic not displaying his own pictures? Is he selling the tunic or the expertise? I would not buy it unless you have a guarantee that the seller actually has the tunic in hand. That tunic looks like one that was once offered on the Estand not long ago..I would want to see pictures close ups of the sewing details and back of collar. The parts all look ok. If it is the one that was offered here then its highly possible its a rebadged heer tunic that tunic had thread remnants from other insignias...and I agree that just by looking at these third party pictures one can see the sleeve eagle was done in a rather sloppy manner or removed and replaced at least once.

[H-U Rudel]

So I got more detail pics via mail. But I can`t post them here, `cause I`m no Association Member.

Maybe I can send them to a pro via E-mail?

kind regards

Uli

[Ian Hulley]

Uli, as I told you by PM if you save them on a free photobucket account you can link them direct into here. Or even pay the $25 of whatever it is and get proper access.

Ian.

[H-U Rudel]

Uli, as I told you by PM if you save them on a free photobucket account you can link them direct into here. Or even pay the $25 of whatever it is and get proper access.

Ian.

Ian, I`ll try to save them on an photobucket account. And will also pay for an access here.

Uli

[H-U Rudel]

[Tony C]

Ian, didn't you say it had a COA from Kai Winkler, then you say it's a COA from Detlev Niemann????

Is a COA from Kai Winkler a problem...or is it just the cost thats ringing bells?

Tony