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    SS cape named!

    Ok got teh cape today in hand there are absolutely NO problems,AND ITS NAMED!!also believe the cape was shortened in the period,the thread is old german thread and you can just tell.Id also think the officer had a flair to him,choosing teh velvet collar and having it shortened,Which was teh officer's choice I found out.The clasps were never moved on this thing so any thoughts about them being replaced is unfounded,how do I know??The round part inside where it attaches is tight and makes an impressment in teh wool and liner,if there was one on it before it would show.And also teh prongs have been bent ONCE,no way they were bent more than that,ill post closeups of that later.Check out teh embroidery on that eagle too its amazing,Im having a member here make a swastika by hand to fit it embroidered until I can afford to replace it.


    But here is the named label,it is stitched at the top only so you can filp it over to see teh name..,I believ it says "Obersturmbannfuhrer DRAPE" or "Oberscharfurer Drake"teh date is labeld 1940,there was a Drape, Rudolf SS-Nr.289244 SS-Staf.01.01.1940 if he was an Obersturmbannfuhrer in 38,its possible this is the same guy as his rank was Standartenfuhrer in 40'.What do u think is Drape a common name?heres pics.Oh the stitching you see through the front of label is where the name tag is sewn connecting it to the back.
    Does it say Obersturmbannfuhrer abbreviated?which seems mmore likely,but a rich Oberscharfuhrer could have had a cape too.The name is definately Drape.

    Last edited by wewelsburg; 03-31-2011, 03:41 PM.
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    #2
    No doubt - it is SS-Obersturmbannführer Drape.

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      #3
      Is he a well known officer,has anyone heard of him i should say.Or have any info?Who can I get teh SS info from ,I cant remember teh gentlemans name or firm.

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        #4
        Very nice! Congratulation!

        The Stechbarth tailor tag is very very rare, only a few original items is known with that tailor tag. It was a luxus company, tailoring hat's and uniforms often to higher leaders.

        Arthur Seyss Inquart had at least one of his SS Generals uniforms from this tailor!

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          #5
          Thanks for the information ,thats great to know!

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            #6
            Found out he did end up as a Standartenfuhrer and during teh time he wore cape he was part of teh SS-Hauptamt

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              #7
              I'm just wondering. Given the 'function' of a cape, which I assume to be to afford cover to a mess dress uniform or formal tux in inclement weather, what would be the reasoning for having a short one?

              Aside from the published photo above, have folks seen others cut in this style?

              Just wondering.

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                #8
                It is not only worn with evening dress,cape is worn with regular walking out dress,and field dress with Jackboots!!!hardly evening dress only.. seen in many photos,actually most photos of the cape have regular uniforms underneath planly seen..There are other non german military capes used with mess dress of this length.Ive seen Marine ones used with mess dress of this length.Also stated by several others on forum

                JOHNNY R.The cape length would be relative to the height of the owner, IMO that is not an issue, it if was a shelf item it may have even been done period. Very nice rare item even without the complete eagle

                JOHHNY PIC.anyway anyone with an inquiring mind open to observation and learning would probably know that the early Ss contained many ofiicers under 6' tall including the diminutive Sepp Dietrich himself..their capes would have been quite short to fit properly.

                The cape is shotrened from a long length.It was full length.A full length one would fetch easy 30K.Im proud to have a cape as there are only 2 others i know of!!!Mine has a velvet collar also,it was made by Steckbarth who made many evening dress type unifroms,Ruptured Duck has a dress tunic right now from this firm,and closely inspected uses saem type of black thread used on cape,and same velvetmaterial.

                Is teh cape perfect??No it isnt,is it a great ,rare,named piece...YES!!

                I am considering a trade for an SS black tunic,but just considering,black tunics are everywhere these are not...

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                  #9
                  the best thing of these caps is only the closer!!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pzb14 View Post
                    the best thing of these caps is only the closer!!!
                    huh?thats like saying the best thing of a uniform is only its cufftitle.Maybe you mean the best part of the cape is the clasps,not the only part.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by wewelsburg View Post
                      huh?thats like saying the best thing of a uniform is only its cufftitle.Maybe you mean the best part of the cape is the clasps,not the only part.
                      you and that ****ing cape....clearly his missus wanted it......and got it.

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                        #12
                        And??what else scholar?
                        You and those "5 posts" clearly a big addition to the forum,being here for a few days and all...What did you join today?May 2011,obvious your a puppet member,since youve paid such close attention to the cape you must have other aliases...Insults behind a fake name?

                        EDIT:Zitadel used to be citadel an expelled member who was expelled after a few months and 38 other BIG posts when he originally joined in Jan.2011.What a long history.He is seen under both names in the thread below{ballsy}...take a hike.This type of person ruins our forum,using other names after being expelled and how many more??Surely many to be sick of me and my cape...after only being here since today or whenever in this month...nothing to add but insults and for what?keep it to yourself mack,its not an opinion either way negative or positive,just an insult,unwarranted and un asked for...but thats cool.
                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=506499&page=2
                        Last edited by wewelsburg; 05-18-2011, 06:37 PM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by wewelsburg View Post
                          And??what else scholar?
                          You and those "5 posts" clearly a big addition to the forum,being here for a few days and all...What did you join today?May 2011,obvious your a puppet member,since youve paid such close attention to the cape you must have other aliases...Insults behind a fake name?

                          EDIT:Zitadel used to be citadel an expelled member who was expelled after a few months and 38 other BIG posts when he originally joined in Jan.2011.What a long history.He is seen under both names in the thread below{ballsy}...take a hike.This type of person ruins our forum,using other names after being expelled and how many more??Surely many to be sick of me and my cape...after only being here since today or whenever in this month...nothing to add but insults and for what?keep it to yourself mack,its not an opinion either way negative or positive,just an insult,unwarranted and un asked for...but thats cool.
                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=506499&page=2
                          everyones sick and tired of that cape....you have flogged it to death. here waaaaay before 2011!

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                            #14
                            HAHAHAHA That explains alot,how many names have you used???
                            Everyone is sick of people like you.Trite,where are your wears my friend,not a one for us to be sick of??Lets see your grand collection.
                            I know lets take away all posts that are dicussed or brought back up because you are sick of them.Hey guys lets cater to Zitadel,or citadel or whatever his name is this week!!!

                            BTW:I didnt bring this thread back up myself...A member asked a question and I answered it,simple,oh I forgot your new here.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by wewelsburg View Post
                              HAHAHAHA That explains alot,how many names have you used???
                              Everyone is sick of people like you.Trite,where are your wears my friend,not a one for us to be sick of??Lets see your grand collection.
                              I know lets take away all posts that are dicussed or brought back up because you are sick of them.Hey guys lets cater to Zitadel,or citadel or whatever his name is this week!!!

                              BTW:I didnt bring this thread back up myself...A member asked a question and I answered it,simple,oh I forgot your new here.
                              by the way....Stechbarth....not Steckbarth.

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