Dot44 smock on Herr Weitze's site...

[Max Wünsche]

Given all the drama surrounding Weitze's site of late, I thought I would post this one...

He has it labelled as a Fallschirmjaeger smock, but I have never seen an original like this... I have a book on Fallschirmjaeger Battalion 500/600 and was lead to believe they used standard Luftwaffe smocks...

Im not saying this is not original, just thought it would be interesting to hear some opinions.

[David Fettes]

SS smocks in dot do exist and when they have original applied insignia, the SS arm eagle is on the breast. As to if this one is correct I cannot say.

[B. N. Singer]

Possibly OK; no interior pictures provided?

B. N. Singer

[John Hodgin]

Entertaining multiple doubts.

Would like to see more details such as the snaps, cuffs, seams, and the interior photos Mr. Singer requested.

[knopf]

Max it is time for your next book.Camouflage uniforms of the waffen-ss from M. D. Beaver,Schiffer Book. Page 237-239.

[Ohlau]

Well, I wonder what is opinion of FJ collectors...

Some time ago in FJ forum was a great topic about dot smocks

[Gran Sasso]

Althought the pistol-flap is made from diff. material (have never seen before HBT used for SS jump smocks - maybee replaced?) it looks original.

[Fritz]

Althought the pistol-flap is made from diff. material (have never seen before HBT used for SS jump smocks - maybee replaced?) it looks original.

Not speaking about jump smocks but in general such combinations are 100% ok. Especially as the war progressed more and more got mixed up. I trust you know that yourself but just to make that clear.

The material is ok, largest parts are "earlier" material, the pistol flap somewhat later but by far not the latest.

[Gran Sasso]

Not speaking about jump smocks but in general such combinations are 100% ok. Especially as the war progressed more and more got mixed up.

Sure this was the rule - however I have seen / had app. 15 SS- jump smocks, none had this combination.

[Ohlau]

and a collar ? Isn't it also a bit different material ?

[Fritz]

Sure this was the rule - however I have seen / had app. 15 SS- jump smocks, none had this combination.

My observation as well, just that the use of hbt is no sign either way IMO.

As was said, meterial is authentic, more pics will tell if the smock is.

[Fritz]

and a collar ? Isn't it also a bit different material ?

Possible but hard to tell, likely also that used for the cuffs.

[besslein]

may be ok,looks like someone has a pistol in pistol flap for display.

[Max Wünsche]

Max it is time for your next book.Camouflage uniforms of the waffen-ss from M. D. Beaver,Schiffer Book. Page 237-239.

Funny you mention that, ive added these to my wish list to purchase in the next month...

Uniforms of the Waffen SS - Vol.1 + 2 + 3 (M.D. Beaver)

Camoflage Uniforms of the Waffen SS (M.D. Beaver)

Collectors Guide to Cloth Headgear of the Allgemeine and Waffen SS (M.D.Beaver)...

I was aware that Dot44 was used on smocks, it was the Fallschirmjaeger claim that I was questioning. As I said, the book I have on Fallschirmjaeger Battalion 500/600 does not show them I believe (thats not to say they didnt exist though).

Oh!... and here are more pics of the same smock...

[B. N. Singer]

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Oh!... and here are more pics of the same smock...

Still think it is probably OK, with replaced zips and removed drew string.

B. N. Singer