I have no doubts about the originality of the tab which I posted. There seems to be a wide circle of opinions on these tabs. I took the pics at night so the runes may appear to be fuzzy. I posted a set of cutoff SS officer tabs and a few other SS items in the past which were all accepted as original. This tab is from the same vet's family. If it needs to be discussed further then I will try to get some better pics.
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Originally posted by Felix View PostDan;
I am sorry if I bring bad news but the tab you posted is not on par with originials. It shares on the other hand many similarities with reprodution SS collar tabs. To be humble I would say that I do not believe the tab you posted to be original. Red flags are shape of runes, position, shape of the "3" and the buckram.
To trust items with provenance actually one needs a provenance in itself for that story. There has been too many incidents with "pure vet finds - barn finds - straight out of the wood work finds" that ranges from a mix of original stuff and obvious fakes to just horrible fakes and on some occasions also to original jewels.
The hard core guys on this forum knows all that by heart. Hence the commonly used phrase: never trust the story, but the item. --> All items have to stand on their own merits. This is where your tab fails.
Regarding the first tab posted, I would have to agree with Hohenstaufen. I can say that if the initial SS 3 tab were offered to me, I would not have bought it. There is a high end series of fakes out there with early numbered tabs and SS school tabs etc.
//Felix
this a a 1990's rerpo with a RZM tag added ( wrong code) there is a whole series of these type collar tabs all lack the correct finer details . The first one I saw was a "SS P" sold by Peter Jenkins in the early 1990's, there where two of them actually . Good fakes but still fake.....
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Originally posted by Jim Toncar View PostI agree with Felix and Hohenstaufen
this a a 1990's rerpo with a RZM tag added ( wrong code) there is a whole series of these type collar tabs all lack the correct finer details . The first one I saw was a "SS P" sold by Peter Jenkins in the early 1990's, there where two of them actually . Good fakes but still fake.....Attached Files
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Originally posted by Jim Toncar View PostYes , that's one of the bad tabs in the series, they are meant to deceive.
does any one know when and where they originated?
i'd love to know and see more...........
wisches
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Ok, As promised, here are some high quality fake lettered & numbered SS Rune tabs. As Jim Toncar said, these started out in the 1990's. The ones pictured were all coming out of Europe and being offered to me from two different dealers. The fake skull vertical EM tabs were being offered as well, at or around, the same time frame. The fake skull tabs with the numbers below started to surface about five or six years ago. As Robert Hassler has mentioned as well, the fake bullion rune and skull tabs are getting very good. So, be very careful when purchasing these tabs!Attached Files
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Good postings of these reproductions Hohenstaufen. I believe the last SS1 tabs you posted are similar to a fake series with connections to Italy.
These are very good indeed and hence fool many as a sad result. I feel more and more are starting to get aware though.
Here is another repro SS1 in the same style as above.
//FelixAttached Files
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Originally posted by wisches View Postthank you grant and felix for the info,
very, very interesting
wisches
would love to see some originals to compare
if poss,
I know the fakers would like the same but seems to me they'll get what they need anyway!!
great thread..........
wisches
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"Here is another repro of the Der Fuhrer tab in the same style as the one that started the thread and as the other examples posted and commented on.
Sorry for the small pic but thats all I got."
//Felix
Felix,
The tab that I posted and your example of a repro are not the same. Print them both and you will see the difference. The runes are closer together on mine and the 3 is different and further below the rune. It also has an original code B RZM tag.
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