HELP on SS cloth IX

[Marc verstraete]

Sleve diamonds 1a

[Marc verstraete]

1b

[Marc verstraete]

2a some of the patches on this picture are not from the same sourse as all the other posts. Some look suspicious to me but of course I have not the first idea what I'm talking abouth.

[Marc verstraete]

2b. What is the farmer? one for?? (botom left)

[Ian Hulley]

Marc,on your first picture you've got 2 imposters ! Kick those 2 NSKK drivers rautes out...nice as they are...they're ruining the view

Ian.

[Marc verstraete]

Marc,on your first picture you've got 2 imposters ! Kick those 2 NSKK drivers rautes out...nice as they are...they're ruining the view

Ian.

Hi Ian, thanks for the coment I know these two are NSKK but are all the others original?
Marc

[Ian Hulley]

OK Marc,I now have my reference to hand...
plate 1a top left - bottom right

1. & 9.Medical & Dentistry Officers
2.Medical Personnel
3.Drivers ?
4.NSKK Driver Type 2
5.Former Member of Ordnungs Polizei
6.NSKK Driver Type 1
7.Legal Branch Officers
8. & 10. Signals Personnel (10. upside down)

Plate 2a

1.Former HJ Member
2.Head Office (Replacement,Procurement & Training) (upside down)
3.Ordnance NCO
4.Head Office (Economic & Admin.Building Affairs Group)
5.Farrier Personnel (upside down)
6.Medical Personnel
7.Sicherheitsdienst (Security Service) Personnel
8.Veterinary Personnel
9.Transport Sergeants
10.Reichskommisariat for Strengthening German Nationality (Staff Head Office)
11.Economic Management Group (Economic & Admin. Head Office)

source:- Uniforms,Organisation & History of the Waffen SS (Bender & Taylor) Vol.1

I would bow to my superiors as to the originality,but the main motherlode you acquired seem perfect,containing many rare treasures,so I would say they would be original by association...most (if not all) of these rautes have been reproduced...many very poorly..but of the separate acquisitions I would blacklight (U.V.) test them and burn test a fibre and if they pass that I'd be happy enough to accept them as original.

Hope this helps,

Ian Hulley

[Marc verstraete]

Hello Ian and thank you for the identification and the time you put into doing this.

Can someone give me a few titles of the best books on the subject?? (SS cloth, cuff’s) ?

Marc

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Marc, I would say Angolia's SS cloth insignia book is a must although it is out of print, you can pick up copies here on the E Stand once in a while or via E Bay. Andrew Mollo's multi volume set on SS uniforms and insignia is another must. Once again out of print but these do show up.


Cheers, Ade.

[Marc verstraete]

Thank you, no problem for the Bender books but I will have to look for the ones from Mollo. If you know any for sale.....??
Marc

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Marc, I do see the odd copy for sale at "cheap" bookshops, the type of shops that sell surplus stock from other shops. They never have the full set. I will see if they have any in stock for you.

Cheers, Ade.

[bschille]

Hi Marc,

The book you must have is "German Military Cuffbands" from Gordon Williamson & Thomas McGuirl. It is also from bender publishing.

Just sent you an email...

cheers
Bart