What is your favourite SS item from your collection?

[Scott A. Hess]

"But in the end a stitch is a stitch is a stitch."

Oh really? Another bs "theory" gone South. We all know stitching means a lot.

Robert

Hmm I said you have a nice tunic, I commented on the stitch it is not a “bs” theory, it’s a fact, why does an opinion draw such anger and obnoxious response? It’s a reason I choose often not to post here on this often “arrogant” board, I certainly meant no disrespect, talk to a seamstress or tailor re the “uniqueness” of a T stitch if you don’t believe me, I think you think the third Reich and the SS invented tailoring and sewing techniques. Do you think the SS invented the zig zag stitch? Of course stitching is important, but my point is as you don’t seem to understand the oh so intricate science behind superior SS stitching is a T stitch is just a ****ed up zig zag stitch, there, plain enough, simple enough for you to comprehend? It does not mean it application is right or wrong, it’s just a stitch same as a zig zag both used in oeriod tunics, both still used today.so let me be equally obnoxious, get a clue.

[John4022]

A great tunic made even better with the beautiful flatwire tabs

I'm with Scott though, no need to be so confrontational.

[WalterB]

Hmm I said you have a nice tunic, I commented on the stitch it is not a “bs” theory, it’s a fact, why does an opinion draw such anger and obnoxious response? It’s a reason I choose often not to post here on this often “arrogant” board, I certainly meant no disrespect, talk to a seamstress or tailor re the “uniqueness” of a T stitch if you don’t believe me, I think you think the third Reich and the SS invented tailoring and sewing techniques. Do you think the SS invented the zig zag stitch? Of course stitching is important, but my point is as you don’t seem to understand the oh so intricate science behind superior SS stitching is a T stitch is just a ****ed up zig zag stitch, there, plain enough, simple enough for you to comprehend? It does not mean it application is right or wrong, it’s just a stitch same as a zig zag both used in oeriod tunics, both still used today.so let me be equally obnoxious, get a clue.

Hi Scott,

Interesting that you point out that a "t stitch" is really just a messed up zig-zag stitch. I thought they were different stitching techniques and that the "t stitch" was nowadays known as a blanket stitch. Here are some pictures of blanket stitching and a "t stitch" / blanket stitch in one of my cutoffs.

I am just trying to learn here. Any insight would be appreciated.
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[Scott A. Hess]

Hi Scott,

Interesting that you point out that it is a messed up zig-zag stitch. I thought the "t stitch" was nowadays known as a blanket stitch. Here are some pictures of blanket stitching and a "t stitch" / blanket stitch in one of my cutoffs.

I am just trying to learn here. Any insight would be appreciated.
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The blanket stitch that you refer to is done by hand, it is purposely done in this manner. The T stitch is done on a machine, but it is not meant to be a T by purpose, merely by mistake. A zig zig stitch has to be calibrated on a machine, calibrate too much one direction you get a very very wide zig zag that looks like a W with wide Vs strung together wide apart..go too far the other direction you see a T picture an upside down V, the legs if the V collapse .you see the horizontal portion of a T, the stitch still has to move as fhe machines foot moves and you get what appears to be the top of a T. Also depends how the cloth is aligned relative to the foot when the machine starts. Of course I should add I suppose one could purposely configure the machine to produce a T stitch...why would be a guess, given the zig zag stitch saw such wide use only ANY branch of service items, Herr, Luft, SS, KM, RAD as it was JUST a common stitch, it makes sense the T was just poor calibration, I doubt the factory kapos in a KZ, Ravensbruck or any ghetto, Warsaw, Łódź etc or at an outside firm, peek and clopenburg were micromanaging the accuracy of the zig zag and tossing out tunics were the T existed, it’s just a screwed up zig zag stitch. I wasn’t there watching this stuff being made, but I know enough about sewing and sewing machines (the SS inventee neither) to use some common sense re what happens when a machine is not calibrated correctly, same goes for miscalibration of a Reece or double needle machine.

[WalterB]

The blanket stitch that you refer to is done by hand, it is purposely done in this manner. The T stitch is done on a machine, but it is not meant to be a T by purpose, merely by mistake. A zig zig stitch has to be calibrated on a machine, calibrate too much one direction you get a very very wide zig zag that looks like a W with wide Vs strung together wide apart..go too far the other direction you see a T picture an upside down V, the legs if the V collapse .you see the horizontal portion of a T, the stitch still has to move as fhe machines foot moves and you get what appears to be the top of a T. Also depends how the cloth is aligned relative to the foot when the machine starts. Of course I should add I suppose one could purposely configure the machine to produce a T stitch...why would be a guess, given the zig zag stitch saw such wide use only ANY branch of service items, Herr, Luft, SS, KM, RAD as it was JUST a common stitch, it makes sense the T was just poor calibration, I doubt the factory kapos in a KZ, Ravensbruck or any ghetto, Warsaw, Łódź etc or at an outside firm, peek and clopenburg were micromanaging the accuracy of the zig zag and tossing out tunics were the T existed, it’s just a screwed up zig zag stitch. I wasn’t there watching this stuff being made, but I know enough about sewing and sewing machines (the SS inventee neither) to use some common sense re what happens when a machine is not calibrated correctly, same goes for miscalibration of a Reece or double needle machine.

Very interesting and logical explanation, thank you. It makes perfect sense to me. Very much appreciated.

[JustinS]

Very interesting indeed

[Scott A. Hess]

Its useful to do some research on various commercial and home singer machines that existed in the time period. Singer was the most widely produced and used, and certainly used I believe in many Ghetto setting photos Ive seen, it was plentiful, did not require a great deal of skill to use. Commercial would also have been used, its also interesting that Singer did not develop a residential machine capable of doing stitches other than straight stitch before 1947, introducing 4 colored sets of 'knobs" to make various in the day pre selected stitch patterns.



Of course, heavy industry had commercial machines available, and I dont know that they were capable of doing and at what date. I would think just based on what we know that the zig zag was available, obviously, BUT I dont know when the "T" stitch on a machine came into use, it may not have been available for quite some time later. The 1947 singer machines did not produce a running stitch in the T pattern that resembles anything like the ones shown on examples. Others can dive deeper if they wish.

[Pascal Bernhard]

My contribution...

[sutka]

love it

[krikke1980]

Very nice Pascal. Thanks for sharing.

[Robert H]

well done Pascal

[Ironcrown]

My favourite SS item in my collection.
I agree it's nothing particular if compared to what has been posted in this great thread, but I found it by myself, and then it was a great day

[greg.p]

nice job on that buckle !

[BrianK]

Post 728 is perfection.

[Anthony Evans]

Mine