SS-Frw Legion Norwegen collar tab

[Olav]

Isn't Qvist wearing a embroid lion on this pic,or is it a metal lion?
http://www.nuav.net/dnl.html
cheers

[Øyvind]

Thats right Olav! (please take a look at Olavs link!)

The legion used both the collar with the zinc lion and the embrioed one.
Im not quit sure wich type that were the common, I ques 50/50?
What do you think Bjørn?

I have several photos that show both the zinc and the embrioed collar tab, but the thing with the Norwegian volunteers is that we have to bee a bit careful. Most of them sufferd, and still suffers from the post war treatment.
I will therefor show a faemous picture from a wartime newaspaper.
This solider is still alive so I will not give any name!

Will post the photo as soon as I can.

Norwegian

[Olav]

just send me the pics Norwegian.

cheers

[Øyvind]

The next pic you will see its of an Norwegian volunteer with the embroied collar tab, he was in the "Frw Leg Norwegen" The Solider is still alive sp I will not giva any name!

Thank you Olav for posting my pic!

Øyvind

[Olav]

here it is!
the embroid version of the lion was used, so any more comments on the tabs I posted for Norwegian at the start of this tread? Gary? anybody?
cheers!

[Bob Hritz]

The insignia on the collar tab appears to be the metallic version with the axe head broken off. You can clearly see the dark areas, where black thread was used to sew the lion in place.


Bob Hritz

[Rene Chavez]

Hi,
I agree with Bob. The insignia looks like the metalic version and does not look like the one posted in the beginning of the thread. I am still not sure that the insignia is original but that is my opinion.

Rene Chavez
Http://axis101.bizland.com

[Øyvind]

Thanks for the coments BUT the tab on the photo is a embrioed one!
The metal lion isnt that big as the one on the last photo. The metal lion
did only came in ine size (M/37) (made in Norway) I have several photos showing the embrioed one, in fact I have seen more photos of the the embrioed than the one in metal!
The reason is (I think) that the metal lion was first isued, later on the embrioed came. I also think that they were made in Gernany, and as you all know the Germans did not like the axe! So my guess is that they also made tabs without the axe! I have both pics of embrioed with the axe and without it!

The photo that I have posted are of an embrioed one, 100% sure!

Øyvind

[Rene Chavez]

Hi Norwegen, now that I know who you are.

Okay, still not convince, but lets say that the tab is an embroidered type it still does not look like the one originally posted in the beginning of this thread. Olav wants an opinion, is there any proof that the insignia was actually made or worn?
Also can you please post some of the embroiderd style tabs?

Rene Chavez

[Øyvind]

Hi Rene!

I have both seen embroiderd on original pictures and on original uniforms used by Norwegian wss. The tabs that you posted a while back ago is an original embroiderd style collar tab.
I have some pics that I can show you later on!
Im also unsure about my tab, not because of the backing, but I dont like the
shape of the lion. I thinck it has few detales compared to the ones I`w seen during the past years!

The one that you can see on the pic that you posted was given to a friend of mine by a veteran.

Øyvind

[Rene Chavez]

Hi Øyvind,
I agree that both the items I have posted thanks to you are original. I also agree that the lion originally posted does not conform to the typical Norwegian emblem. The DNL collar tabs that I've seen have the lion wearing a crown.

Rene Chavez
Http://axis101.bizland.com

[Øyvind]

Yep im totaly agree with you on that one Rene!
As I said before, I do not like the lack of detales on my tab!
I have always been 85% sure that my tab ws fake, but I wanted
some opinions from others.

Thanks for the help Rene!

Øyvind

[Björn Jervas]

Hello!

The picture is quite well known, and was used in an advertisement for a photographer in Bergen. In my opinion, it must be a metal variant Lion worn.

The embroidered Lions were, as far as I know, on one version for officers with silver braids, and one for NCO/EMs.

It is difficult, however, to make very clear statesments on the dress regulations for the Legion, as almost everything was worn, especially in the initial period.

B

[Øyvind]

Hello again!

Thought I should kick this thread up for debate agian! Still got the first tab showed in this thread in my collection, but have put it in the "hmmm" drawer.
But I do got this one in my "hmmm, could be real" drawer.

Background: The Norwegian Legion had a police company attached to their seige outside Leningrad. The police company was formed under leg-Sturmbanfhürer Jonas Lie. The company had various insignia just like the legion. However, the standard use of the collar was two lions, one attached on each collar. The problem with this one is the way the lion is faced. The collar I have is the left one, but the lion is faced wrong way.

What do the expert panel thinK?

Cheers
Øyvind

[Øyvind]

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