SS vinther boots??

[Jacob Andreasen]

I bought thise boots some time ago, i did not buy them as SS boots, but they are Stampt BB- SS 1944. Is the stamp authentic or a fake.
There is a kind of a little leather pocket inside the boots, what might that be.

[Robin Lumsden]

The boots look OK, but I don't like the stamp. Original Army boots with a fake SS stamp, I think.

[derspiess63]

Hi,
boots are definitely ok,one of the many styles of leather and felt boots issued to German soldiers in cold climates.The little "pocket"is not a pocket really,imo looks more like some sort of loop through which passed a cord or a thong to keep the boots together.Could you please tell us if there are numbers between the sole and the heel?
I think that the stamp is as genuine as a thirteen cents coin though!
Manuel

[Jacob Andreasen]

Hi,
boots are definitely ok,one of the many styles of leather and felt boots issued to German soldiers in cold climates.The little "pocket"is not a pocket really,imo looks more like some sort of loop through which passed a cord or a thong to keep the boots together.Could you please tell us if there are numbers between the sole and the heel?
I think that the stamp is as genuine as a thirteen cents coin though!
Manuel

Hello.
Thanks for you reply.
There is a number between the sole ans the heel, but it is to fainted to be read.

And heres a wild schot
A 7.62 round fits perfectly in the litle loob, could it be for e saving the last bullet.

[Jacob Andreasen]

Hello.
Thanks for you reply.
There is a number between the sole ans the heel, but it is to fainted to be read.

And heres a wild schot
A 7.62 round fits perfectly in the litle loob, could it be for e saving the last bullet.

[derspiess63]

Way cooool!
Take care!
Manuel

[Michael Kuligowski]

hello Guys !!!
Are You sure that this boots are genuine ??? I mean.. not to many things indicates that these are period ... but fake stamp indicates that somebody tried to make them look period

these boots were in massive production after war - and IMO they are post war
just my opinion.. but I can always be wrong

[derspiess63]

[QUOTE=Kuligow]hello Guys !!!
Are You sure that this boots are genuine ??? I mean.. not to many things indicates that these are period ... but fake stamp indicates that somebody tried to make them look period

these boots were in massive production after war - and IMO they are post war
just my opinion.. but I can always be wrong [/QUOTE
]

Hi Mike,
you're right...these boots were extensively used and even produced after the war but I have a pair that's very similar (except for the strange white leather fittings) which has been found in Tyrol, where some units of "grenzen schutzen"were given them along with German uniforms in the first weeks of 1945.The fake stamp refers to the WSS and it was put there to boost their value and uniqueness!
I've got six pairs of leather and felt boots and the only thing that may seem strange here is that these boots' pulling straps are made of leather,while in all the specimens I've seen they were usually made of heavy white HBT and RBNr stamped(sometimes the Maker's name or RBNr code was stamped on a fabric tag that was sewn on the inner part of the shaft,as on the sentry overboots).The fact that these boots don't have the small V-shaped opening at the rear with its leather tab and buckle and the front vertical leather strip doesn't put me off at all since the boots I've been given in Austria are similar....they unfortunately miss the pull tabs so I cannot tell whether they were made of leather or fabric!
I like the soles,and I quite like the stiches and wood pegs pattern,especially so on the second layer of leather.
As usual, when they don't have a production date or when the latter isn't visible anymore, it's quite difficult to ascertain whether these boots were made during or after the war, but in my humble opinion they could be considered period.

[Michael Kuligowski]

Manuel !!
I agree with you !!
I am also troubled with pulling straps - this leather is not looking right... i believe that all of "textbook" (I know this word is not popular boots should have these made of fabric

I am a bit troubled with lack of any stamps - maybe there is a size inside ??
also I would like to see this boots with leather hobnails

it's really hard to judge this kind of boots - as long as they are not coming straight from the "source" (attic barn etc. )
It is just my personal preference but I would not buy them for my collection..
cheers

[Michael Kuligowski]

boots from my friend Robert colection:

[derspiess63]

Manuel !!
I agree with you !!
I am also troubled with pulling straps - this leather is not looking right... i believe that all of "textbook" (I know this word is not popular boots should have these made of fabric

I am a bit troubled with lack of any stamps - maybe there is a size inside ??
also I would like to see this boots with leather hobnails

it's really hard to judge this kind of boots - as long as they are not coming straight from the "source" (attic barn etc. )
It is just my personal preference but I would not buy them for my collection..
cheers

Hi Mike,
yes,you're right, I had my ones from an old man in Tyrol for nothing-and-a-half and I'm sure they're original but if I had to buy them,well, I'd go for a"textbook"(YEACH!)pair!
They weren't heavily marked though,but I've found the very same straps on a pair of first-modell knobelbecher!I wish I could post my attachment so that I can put my money where my mouth is for good!
There could have been a tag with the Maker's info that may have been torn off and that would explain the lack of markings but this latter thing usually doesn't put me off,since I'm more concerned about the way they're made,which is quite convincing to me,especially the soles.
I can't deny you're right and we keep repeating each other here...they were made well after the war and being sure wether they're period or not is quite difficult without knowing the "source"but I wouldn't be so pessimistic....my two cents here and it goes without saying that I could be wrong!

[derspiess63]

boots from my friend Robert colection:

Hi Mike,
your friends' boots are definitely "####book",and are Landser-issue !
Keep in mind that many were made all over the Western Europe in a lot of workshops,so there were many patterns and variations.Of course,if I had to choose I wouldn't think twice and I'd go for your friends' but I wouldn't light-hearted dismiss the others as post-war!
You see?The bloke that added the stamps simply rang a bell and you(and many other well informed collectors)rightly thought"they were put there to make these boots look like they were period,hence....they're not!"
I hate these guys,for they simply screw anything they put their greedy hands on and add a lot to the confusion !
Hope to hear
Manu

[Jacob Andreasen]

hei!

Just for the record.
I bought these boots in austria.

[Jacob Andreasen]

Funny!

I just found the exact same boots fore sale on a norwegien auction.

http://my.qxl.no/accdb/viewItem.asp?...m=2&Catg=11591