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    #61
    I think its a great piece. I know I have some great pieces that the forum would tear to pieces because of one thing or another...it dosn't matter that they came straight from a vet, they upset the text book collectors apple carts and that will not be tolerated.

    Enjoy your nice and unusual specimen.

    Richard

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      #62
      Great that somebody understands german. Only a few veterans_is Paul Hausser, Otto Weidinger, Heinz Harmel, Silvester Stadler,Jochen Peiper and so on only "a few veterans"? Iam collecting since 45 years, you can read my name in books from R.J. Beder, Mark C. Yerger and so on.Ok, I am eating sometimes Bratwurst but not "pommes frittes" they are original from Belgium.
      And, the most important thing is, I got my collection from veterans or I bought it, I did'nt loot
      anything of my collection.
      Heinz

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        #63
        Gentlemen, I do think that this forum and it's members could show a bit more respect to each other, and also believe that the lingua franca should be in English.
        It's not really a contest, but sometimes it seems so.
        Thank God I avoid SS cloth, and just go for the relatively safe haven of SS steel!
        Cheers, C.

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          #64
          To Mr. John Pic : What makes YOU to be an expert? Can I read your name in relevant books? Believe me, to say "I don't like it" is not, what an expert would say. "It is not original, because of....." thats what an expert have to declare. and about the language, I am speaking 3 of them, and you?
          Best regards
          Heinz

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            #65
            Thats the most important thing-its a nice tunic and you love it, so do I.
            Best regards
            Heinz

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              #66
              Lieber Heinz, I speak, topa wowaglake....skennohgohghon, kola, comprende..senor?
              I speak 4... 2 which are native American.
              Normally if I dont have a reason for finding an item is "questionable" or has "red Flags (Rote Fahne)" I do not comment. It is important to those who want to learn that points be made about the exact faults of a piece before it is condemed...you of all must agree, since your SS tunic was torn to shreds by the experts here. Few of whom chose to discuss thier reasons and you were not happy about. but now you say you like this one that is good because...

              1.This tunic is made from correct material in the correct cut and style of the period.

              2. The collar tabs are original and are hand stitched on.. the owner believes this was done post war although many had thiers hand sewn on during the war.

              3. The shoulder boards are the scarce braided cord type not easy to find in pairs to sew onto a restoration..someone whould spend more time and money just hunting them down.

              4. The Eagle is unusual and MAY be a reproduction and maybe not...it does appear resewn on....that matters little since the item with the swastika was most readily removed post war by many.

              5.The cufftitle..a $2000 piece of cloth alone..is attached and is original.

              Judging on peoples ability to buy the original pieces these days Im willing to bet the owner got a very fair dealon this and thus it was worth it to him.

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                #67
                Originally posted by John Pic View Post
                2. The collar tabs are original and are hand stitched on.. the owner believes this was done post war although many had thiers hand sewn on during the war.
                Yes, my thinking of them being post applied is because of the very crude way they are stitched. Figured they would have been more neatly applied being wartime. But hey, my thinking could be wrong.

                Originally posted by John Pic View Post
                Judging on peoples ability to buy the original pieces these days Im willing to bet the owner got a very fair dealon this and thus it was worth it to him.
                I pretty much collect Heer Headgear, so I wouldn't even think about buying this type of item if I didn't know who owned it before me. From what I have seen, SS stuff is a tough venture. Judging from what dealers charge for this stuff, Yes, I got a Hell of a bargain. Paid about a tenth of what they charge. When I told my wife about it, she didn't even question me, she knew it was a once in a lifetime deal.

                I think I might be hooked on SS Tunics now so you all might be seeing me around this section for a while . Even If I can never afford another one, I know I have a great piece of history.

                Thanks again Everyone,
                Matt

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                  #68
                  Matt I will leave the insignia discussion to the SS guys but the tabs certainly could be original to it. Here is a cut off Heer tab. I don’t think fakers are putting a $30 tab on a cut off piece of collar yet.
                  Attached Files

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                    #69
                    And another
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                      #70
                      Thanks for those pics Nick

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                        #71
                        Dear Mr John Pic!
                        topa wowaklake----is this your mother language? I seems so, because you did not understand, what I wrote: I did NOT say, this tunic is original, I only wrote, if He (the owner) is happy with the tunic,its great and I am feeling with him, nothing more. So enough jockes,
                        I agree with your 5 points, here is my hand. By the way, according my SS-OStuf tunic, remember your point 2. (hand stitched).
                        Best regards
                        Heinz

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                          #72
                          Kreager I have seen hand stitching very sloppy on the reverse but its not the reverse that matters so they could be original to the tunic. Whatever you do, dont take them off to resew them on "properly"

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by John Pic View Post
                            Kreager I have seen hand stitching very sloppy on the reverse but its not the reverse that matters so they could be original to the tunic. Whatever you do, dont take them off to resew them on "properly"
                            Thank You for the sound advice John, much appreciated

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