Vet acquired Dutch SS Sport badgeI

[martin3]

I am of the opinion that it is a makers mark Mine, Toms, the one with swords posted yesterday, and one other silver grade that I have seen are all marked the same.

Most unlikely...
529 would suggest we had an awful lot of award manufacturers over here.
I can assure you it was not more than a hand full.
Do not forget The Netherlands are very, very small.

Those two badges you mentioned are far from the same and even the SS 529 marks differ.
Take a look at the 9.
One tail is almost straight and the other one curls.

I still think these numbers suggest somekind of membership or serial number and until now I only saw NSB number 127 and SS number 529.
And it is not difficult to see these numbers can be found on totally different badges, suggesting several makers used the same number.

I would love to see the pictures from the Mollo book, btw!

Cheers,
Martin

[tgn]

My eyes may be bad, but I don't see the difference in the number "9". Let me post a close-up. Maybe someone could do a side-by-side comparison.

Tom

[martin3]

No, nothing wrong with your eyes.
It is more the fact that I've spoiled mine because I've been staring for hours at all these marks.
And not only last week, this bloody badge is haunting me for years.
To me as a Dutch collector this badge became a Holy Grail, was it produced or not?
And believe me, I do hope it has!
But personally I hope we will be able to solve some riddles around the markings before I start hunting.
Good thing is that more and more is discovered.
This year even a qualification book surfaced!

http://www.stirnpanzer.com/forum/vie...hp?f=103&t=581

That is most interesting, isn’t it?
A great discovery would be a filled out book.

Back to the markings: those NSB numbers suggest a member number, but it is not because than it would have read ‘Stamboeknummer’ or an abbreviation, that’s the NSB membership list name
They were very proud on the affix Stamboek.
It is not maker number, due to the fact Holland did not use a coded system to identify a hand full of producers.
So what remains are an SS and NSB number, on badges from different producers.
I made a compilation of several numbers below: look at the serifs on the 7, the waves in the tail of several 2’s, up curling tails from 9’s, etc.
Those marks are far from the same.


I can't upload anymore, funny...
I'll link the file:

[tgn]

...this bloody badge is haunting me for years.
To me as a Dutch collector this badge became a Holy Grail, was it produced or not? And believe me, I do hope it has!

Ah, a Holy Grail quest! I like these...

Keep up the good work...

Tom

[jabnus]

Lately more and more of these are popping up. and although some of them look better than other's there remain lots of questions. What's so strange is the difference in quality of most of the badges. Also the number's are not very trustfull as is the way the badges are marked (some very sloppy). To be short: i don't like them.

We know now the qualification rules and the booklet, but it get's more and more logic that the badges were not actually handed out and replaced by the ss proficiency badges. Until a completely filled in booklet surfaces i think it's fair to say these never were handed out, but that's just my opinion.


There's another topic with more examples here:

http://www.stirnpanzer.com/forum/vie...&sd=a&start=30

regards,
Gaston

ps: I wonder how much more badges will surface soon...

[Robin Lumsden]

[quote=tgn;2915332]Ah, a Holy Grail quest! I like these...
/quote]

So do I.

Great fun.

Problem is, there's no such thing as a real 'Holy Grail'. It never actually existed.

[martin3]

Problem is, there's no such thing as a real 'Holy Grail'. It never actually existed.

Infidel!
I've seen the Grail and it was RZM marked!

Cheers,
Martin

[Robin Lumsden]

Infidel!
I've seen the Grail and it was RZM marked!

Are you sure it wasn't SS-NSB marked?

[steiner1939]

Hey!

Here is mine! If it was good ....
The seller said me it was but we all know what sellers love






Regards

[John T]

Gee guys...I guess I must be rich if these are now good

[John T]

reverse

[John T]

I have the version with the swords somewhere too..these are much better made...but as for being wartime made...I dunno...I would need some proof,

[John T]

front detail.....I have never seen a real one of these (as well as the version with the swords), plenty of nice fakes, yes, and I would like to see a legit vet bringback, I always thought these were fantasy pieces, but who knows, I would like to learn some more on the subject...John

[John T]

oooh yeah...here is another, a silver one....

[Robin Lumsden]

These things are breeding like...................