Female SS helper?

[Askold]

Can anybody ID this hat badge? This is a pic of a Ukrainian girl that was found among old glass slides in city of Zhovkva. She is wearing some sort of a uniform and has a Trydent lapel pin. Perhaps some sort of communications/signals helper?

[Gaspare]

seen the pin many times but never a hat like that!! what a great photo!!

[Robin Lumsden]

Great photo!

There must be so many Nazi uniforms that we still don't know about.

[themilitaryman]

Never seen anything like it, amazing photo!

[Darrell]

Is THAT Ilse?

[Glenn McInnes]

I like the gal...Better than the hat..






Glenn

[merdock]

Hi,
Is it possible that it's a new photo?
Merdock

[Glenn McInnes]

Hi,
Is it possible that it's a new photo?
Merdock

That would be my guess.





Glenn

[Gary Wood]

There must be so many Nazi uniforms that we still don't know about.

I agree,

[Robin Lumsden]

She may have worked with these men..................Ukrainian SS Police. Note the buckles.

[Fritz]

I am with those that think that the picture is not authentic.

Cheers

Fritz

[Askold]

Well like I mentioned - the picture itself is a REPRINT from a glass slide. It comes from a whole box of different slides, another one features Ukrainian policemen. The content however is 100% pre-1945 - am sure you can recognize an original visor and insignia

P.S. So if I understand correctly - the cockade is a never before seen insignia? I spoke to my grandmother who used to work at the Reichspost office and dealt with communications - she mentiones that women could wear visor hats if they wanted to (did not specify which visors though), she herself never had one.

P.P.S. I agree with Robert that perhaps she is probalby related to Ukrainian SS. I would guess that it could be with the National Committee (committeee responsible for volutneer recruitment). There was a women's branch which was responsible for preparing gifts or visit the soldiers at SS camp Dembica - perhaps she belonged to them.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Very interesting pic.

I had not seen it before.

I cannot offer any opinions about the insignia or originality of the photo. But I bet it has been right clicked a few times tonight.

Cheer, Ade.

[Askold]

It just occured to me that she could be a leader for Ukrainian Flak helper girls. When Flakhelpers went under SS control the commanding officers wore mixed SS uniforms. I remember seeing a pics from Latvian and Estonian Flakhelper leaders and they wore such mixed Luft/SS clothing.

[pete]

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Interesting photo! Nice to see somthing I have personally not seen before!

Quite manly looking aint she... .....looks like she would snap your PP if you looked the wrong way! Thats the closest frau farbisina I have seen yet apart from Ilsa She wolf of the SS!




Best,

Pete