SS Honor Ring

[Schwertehre]

I have an offer to buy this ring. I´m not sure, is this an authentic one?

[Schwertehre]

[Schwertehre]

[clevischi]

Would like to see better pics of inside inscriptions...
But it seens to have a strange line in the middle of the ring accross almost all the surface... is it true? looks like a mold copy line..

[bnz. 42]

fake

[David Guist]

Hello it is a copy. All the original ones I have seen on here have a seam under the skull where it was put together. The skull is a seperet piece . Best regards.

[ErichS]

It's a good copy if it is one. I also noticed the possible casting line. I would like to see better photos before saying it's a fake though.

[clevischi]

Hello it is a copy. All the original ones I have seen on here have a seam under the skull where it was put together. The skull is a seperet piece . Best regards.

I agreed.

[Robert H]

a nice decent copy but not good enough to be real

[Rylan]

I would like to see better photos before saying it's a fake though.

I don't see any point in that, as mentioned if there is not seam line present, it's a fake.

[sgstandard]

Ring

Besides the apparent lack of a seam, the rune borders are misshapen, especially for the little amount of overall wear. The Ty-rune doesn't look right. The Himmler signature doesn't look right. It's weird that several known die flaws are present. I vote no also.

[Ehrenkreutz]

Hello it is a copy. All the original ones I have seen on here have a seam under the skull where it was put together. The skull is a seperet piece . Best regards.

Dav: You can't write a ring off, just on that. I have several mint rings that do not show a seam where the band was joined, or much in the way of solder, where the skull was attached. Remember, that these were a piece of jewelry; They really shouldn't show any evidence of their construction (though they oftentimes do).

This is an unusually small one. Craig Gottlieb has sold one or two of similar size.

I would like to see more pictures of it, before I write it off.

Schwertehre, could you get some more pictures of it, including some dead-on shots of the outside of the band, and more shots of the inscription? The more the merrier, buddy! You can get pretty good pics of these, setting them up on a 35 mm film canister. Also, could

I agree with the comments that some of the runes are a bit misshapen, however, the very presence of known die flaws is a good sign. The skull will tell us a good bit, as will some clear shots of the inscription.

[Ehrenkreutz]

I don't see any point in that, as mentioned if there is not seam line present, it's a fake.

WRONG. Look at the 3rd picture down; NO SEAM !!!?!?!?!?!?!?! Do you think this ring is fake ?? Not trying to be rude, Mr. Brissette, just honest. You simply cannot subscribe to the train of thought that everything has to be a certain way, without exception, especially when you are dealing with a highly personalized item such as a TK ring. There are certain fundamental traits that are inherent to ALL rings (2 piece construction, as an example), but there is always going to be some degree of variation in them, simply because the men that wore them were all different. The example I've posted, is your typical 30's style ring, which is vastly different from transitional rings, and 40's style rings.

[Gaspare]

the first ring shown is a copy. Theres a fault line from the rubber mold wax model present..

As far as the seam. You really can't always go by that.

Early rings are thought to have a different alloy than later rings. And, their solder was more than likely also different [close to the rings composition itself] makeing the seam on early rings usually hard to see..

With the later pattern you'll usually see some part of a seam.

.Ehrenkreutz, Looks familiar,,anyway,,thats an excellent example of the early pattern you have there. Congrats!,,,,,G.

[Ehrenkreutz]

the first ring shown is a copy. Theres a fault line from the rubber mold wax model present..

As far as the seam. You really can't always go by that.

Early rings are thought to have a different alloy than later rings. And, their solder was more than likely also different [close to the rings composition itself] makeing the seam on early rings usually hard to see..

With the later pattern you'll usually see some part of a seam.

.Ehrenkreutz, Looks familiar,,anyway,,thats an excellent example of the early pattern you have there. Congrats!,,,,,G.

Thanks G! I think that's one of the best copies I've ever seen. The mold line hit me after I posted, but I still wouldn't mind seeing more pictures of it.

You've seen that ring before; Somebody posted it on another site; I only posted it here, to illustrate the point about the seam. I'd hate to see some of the guys here pass up a nice original, because they're relying on the seam to dictate good or bad.