sd collar tab for opinions please

[notton]

A

[Felix]

Not for my collection.

[fjcollector]

the rank is on the wrong end of the tab and i dont think ive ever seen that kind of RZM tag on a collar tab before.

[notton]

Thank you Gentlemen .
I appreciate.
Best regards, xavier

[PMan]

SD Tabs

Nice early tabs. Litzen is correct. Piping is correct. Cloth is correct. RZM tag is proper. Great tabs.

[Arran]

I like them too. The litzen is not on the wrong end of the tab, its just pictured upside down. I like the pattern of the litzen, and the piping too, although I've never seen an RZM tag sewn on to a tab in this exact manner (although the tag is original)

[notton]

Thank you Peter,
for your input, although I feel a little confused ...
Best regards.
Xavier

[PMan]

Tabs

No need to be confused. There is nothing wrong with them. Nothing!
Peter

[Felix]

No need to be confused. There is nothing wrong with them. Nothing!
Peter

Different strokes for different folks!
Allright, you wrote your opinion but do not claim there is nothing wrong, or unusual with these tabs.
Ever seen a cloth tag sewn on in that way ?(on a collar tab)
Ever seen original tabs with that kind of long fold overs?
Comfortable with the backing?
Comfortable with the litzen?

Beside my worries there are some things that looks good, the rzm cloth tag and the piping. However they are far from obvious originals. In my humble opionion I wrote that they are not for my collection based on my above questions.

Cheers,

"Felix" - N. Hansson

[PMan]

Tabs

Different strokes for different folks!
Allright, you wrote your opinion but do not claim there is nothing wrong, or unusual with these tabs.
Ever seen a cloth tag sewn on in that way ?(on a collar tab)
Ever seen original tabs with that kind of long fold overs?
Comfortable with the backing?
Comfortable with the litzen?

Beside my worries there are some things that looks good, the rzm cloth tag and the piping. However they are far from obvious originals. In my humble opionion I wrote that they are not for my collection based on my above questions.

Cheers,

"Felix" - N. Hansson

These are obvious originals to me. I actually like the use of a nice original cloth tag sewn in that way. It makes it even better in my opinion. If you have a problem with the litzen, I must ask you to point out specifically what is wrong with it. The backing and the fold overs mean little if anything at all in this case. The tabs have a lot going for them.

[PMan]

For Felix

Felix,
Please help me to understand the problem you have with the important parts of these tabs such as the litzen, cloth or piping? If your concern is just the fold overs and where the RZM tag is located, I think you have a very weak case.
Peter

[notton]

Thank you Peter,
I really appreciate your great knowledlege !
Best Wishes, xavier

[Felix]

Felix,
Please help me to understand the problem you have with the important parts of these tabs such as the litzen, cloth or piping? If your concern is just the fold overs and where the RZM tag is located, I think you have a very weak case.
Peter

Peter;
Here is a quote of my red flag questions and statment of good things because it seems like you missed it.
"Ever seen a cloth tag sewn on in that way ?(on a collar tab)
Ever seen original tabs with that kind of long fold overs?
Comfortable with the backing?
Comfortable with the litzen?

Beside my worries there are some things that looks good, the rzm cloth tag and the piping."

I think you got that now so lets focus on the issues here.

I have never seen a rzm cloth tag fixed like that to a collar tab before or other cloth insignias as a matter of fact. It seems like you have to show me another example please of a machine sewn cloth tag to a collar tab. Usually cloth tags are fixed with six small stiches in the corners and the long sides and not machine stitched. I have seen cloth tags affixed in machine stitching to fake shoulder boards before. Cloth tags can also be glued on.

I have never seen original collar tabs with such long fold overs. Its a very important trait to sort fake tabs out. ALL the originals I have seen or handled have shorter cut end fold overs, except a few general tabs. However thats not the case here.

I do not care for the texture of that backing. Its not what Im comfortable to see on original tabs.

The litzen from the photo seem a bit strange but maybe its just the photo.

Despite the correct piping I have to say that all in all these tabs doesnt warm me up like clear originals do.
Cloth thag is original but they are sometimes put on later to hot an item up. Hence, we cant use this to say they are real, though it is a good sign in itself. But not in the way they are sewn on.

I would not purchase these tabs if offered to me. Its still a slim chance its one odd ball original collar tabs pair with all these traits. It seems most unlikely to me --> not for my collection.

Peter, I have tried to explain as good as I can. Hope it helps.

Best regards,
Felix

[PMan]

For Felix

I think I have already addressed the RZM tag and fold overs as "not to important". Moving ahead, I asked that you be specific about the problems you see with the litzen. Saying that it is "a bit strange" says nothing. Also, most collectors I know would prefer machine stitched RZM tags to the shoulder boards. Perhaps the collecting community can correct me on that fact if I am in error.
Peter