What is the verdict on this sleeve eagle? I did a search on the forum but didn´t find a similar eagle.
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Reverse with glue-spots......
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Sorry
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I feared that would be the verdict. Thanks for the help!Comment
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You have any info on this on Francesco? While I've never seen this type before, the construction looks pretty good, so I'd like to learn more.
AlexComment
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So would I! The materials look fine. Round head and shallow chest stitch detail, but that's all that would raise my eyebrows. Is it undersized or something else that is not apparent? Regards, RobertOriginally posted by Horrido! View PostComment
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Anybody? I'm really not seeing any major issues with this peice, unless it has already been detected as a known fake before. Thanks.
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Can anybody tell from these pics which directions the wing thread is facing? Is the top toward the body the the lowers lines moving away? I can't tell from this crap monitor I'm sitting in from of, at least until I get home.
AlexComment
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Hi Alex and Robert,
what I can say is that in over 22/24 years I have never seen an eagle like this before in any collection or show and also in any reference book.
The body and the wings to this eagle are very well made but we do not have to forget that there are very fine copy with these characteristic like the one posted here.Now my great concern is the head.This kind of head is truly frequent in many well know fake.
This is just my opinion.........surely not for my collection.
Best,
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Grazie 1000 for the explaination Francesco. Seems I have learned something new today, as I didn't know such well-made fakes were on the market today. To me this eagle looks kind of like a mid-war RZM crossed with a late war Dachau eagle. Thanks for clarifying, and I will add this to my library of fakes.
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Hello!
It doesn´t have to do with Your monitor, it might very well be due to my crappy photo....
The thread in the wing-lines are angled away from the eagles body, on both wings.
Originally posted by Horrido! View PostComment
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The measurements are: total width (black base cloth) is 9,6 cm. Eagle/stitching width is 8,5 cm.
Total height is 4,2 cm, eagle/stitchings height is 3,7 cm. Sorry, I don´t know what this turns out in inches....
Collectors Guild has just put a very similar eagle up for sale.
Originally posted by RobertE View PostComment
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All details are as an original RZM late production eagle, I don't like the head too but I am with Horrido on this, could be IMO an error when was made or a pattern I don't know, I want hear more opinions by experts and maybe learn more but I would give it a chance.
LucaSiam fatti cosi!Comment
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Thanks for the comments Luca. Yeah, I am still reluctant to write this off as a fake (no offence to Francesco). The construction just looks too good, besides the head. To me, it looks like a late war production. I think the lack of comments compared to the number of views means that a lot of people are curious about this piece and would like to know a final decision on its authenticity. I am still of the belief that it is probably orginal.....for now, anyway.
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Hi Alex,don't worry.....I don't offense.Originally posted by Horrido! View Post
Well,if you give a look at the "fake's thread" you can find some fake eagles with te same body and wings to the one on this thread especially if you give a look at page 3 and page 4.There are some other eagle with the same head.
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