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**Glenn McInnes** · 07-31-2007, 04:21 PM

My thought was that the SS clothing works could not meet the demand for hats, camo jackets etc thus it was sub contracted out to some larger factories (that would produce Heer clothing etc) to produce hence the RB # s in some W-SS items.

A number beginning with RF is what I believe to be an item of foreign manufacture and not "made in Germany".

Glenn

**Luca Ongaro** · 07-31-2007, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post

My thought was that the SS clothing works could not meet the demand for hats, camo jackets etc thus it was sub contracted out to some larger factories (that would produce Heer clothing etc) to produce hence the RB # s in some W-SS items.

A number beginning with RF is what I believe to be an item of foreign manufacture and not "made in Germany".

Glenn

As I think Glenn

Luca

**Bob Hritz** · 07-31-2007, 04:34 PM

IF, I were to suppose that there could be late-war M-43 caps bearing RB numbers, would they not have the trapazoid one piece insignia, not the earlier 2 piece insignia? If I am to follow logic, I would think RB on an SS item would indicate very late production.

See why I stay away from RB marked SS caps?

Bob Hritz

**Glenn McInnes** · 07-31-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post

IF, I were to suppose that there could be late-war M-43 caps bearing RB numbers, would they not have the trapazoid one piece insignia, not the earlier 2 piece insignia? If I am to follow logic, I would think RB on an SS item would indicate very late production.

See why I stay away from RB marked SS caps?

Bob Hritz

Rb#s came into use sometime in late 42/ early 43, so 2 pc insignia in some cases is of course possible I would think. I can only remember seeing RB#ed hats with a trapazoid.

Glenn

**Luca Ongaro** · 07-31-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post

IF, I were to suppose that there could be late-war M-43 caps bearing RB numbers, would they not have the trapazoid one piece insignia, not the earlier 2 piece insignia?

A trapazoid one piece insignia is what I would expect to see on M-43 caps bearing RB numbers otherwise as Glenn told the 2 pc are possible.
Luca

**Bob Hritz** · 07-31-2007, 04:44 PM

In 1942 and 1943, the SS were procuring their clothing equipment from SS channels. It was in late 1944 and 1945 that the supply system was having difficulties.

Bob Hritz

**Bob Hritz** · 07-31-2007, 04:47 PM

A lesson on HRITZ'S RAZOR OF RELATIVE VALUE

The value of an item is in inverse proportion to the length of the explaination. Or, the longer you must explain an item, the shorter the price for that item.

Bob Hritz

**Glenn McInnes** · 07-31-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post

In 1942 and 1943, the SS were procuring their clothing equipment from SS channels. It was in late 1944 and 1945 that the supply system was having difficulties.

Bob Hritz

What about the "Statni" marked caps with 2 pc insignia? I always considered these late. Don't recall seeing one with a RB# though.

Glenn

**Bob Hritz** · 07-31-2007, 08:06 PM

Glenn,

I have never seen a Statni marked cap and never even heard of them until the last 10 years, so cannot comment on them.

Bob Hritz

**billbert** · 08-01-2007, 01:07 AM