Need help.....volunteer shields, etc

[CaliforniaGigol]

Hi all.....I would really appreciate some help authenticating these items. I am not new to TR history, but very new to the collecting side of the house. It's already been quite an exciting endeavour. I also ask that you please supply me with some explanation of why something is real or not. I am very eager to learn the signs determining real items from fakes. Thanks in advance for the help!


SOrry......pictures are way too big so I have just posted links. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I still appreciate your input.



SS collar tabs:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0653.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0665.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0666.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0667.jpg

Second set collar tabs:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0688.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0689.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0690.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0691.jpg



TK:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0695.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0696.jpg



Volunteer Shields:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0699.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0700.jpg



Dutch With Orange…..Never seen this before:


http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0678.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/akalouf/...n/IMG_0679.jpg

[Ian Hulley]

The tabs and skull are IMHO fakes,incorrectly formed from incorrect materials. I can't seem to get the shields to load properly .... it time-outs on my work PC.

Ian.

[Anders S]

Here they are Ian.

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[Rene Chavez]

Hi IMO the SS foreign volunteer shields including the SS and TK insignia is repro.!

Rene Chavez
http://axis101.bizland.com

[Basil]

The Danish shield is a fake but a good one.

[CaliforniaGigol]

Thanks for the info guys.....unfortunately I own the 3 shields in the picture, and the first set of collar tabs. I do not own the second dutch shield, TK, and second set of tabs.

Regarding the shields.....what tips you off about each in a determination of repros? Is there a reference bible that discusses WSS cloth insignia? All of these items came from a local shop, and I'm sure the owner doesn't mean to rip anyone off. He intentionally prices these items low because he fears repros, but say that if you get something real....more power to you. Are there any reliable sources for WSS volunteer shields? Thanks again for the help, it's very much appreciated. Like I said, I'm still a green noob to collecting.

[Askold]

Sorry, but all the shields are fake. The best way to figure out whats good is to do a forum search, find pics of original shields and then compare them. Good luck!

[prorege1]

Bad reproductions - suggest you buy a standard refence book, Angolia's Cloth Insignia of the SS, not cheap but here it is in Denmark: http://www.antikvariat.net/search.cg...9&qe=KBR153739

[NickG]

I agree repros... The shields are most likely from "Pieces of History" out of Arizona... They sell a lot of garbage. You can do a search on WAF re their "quality".... but here are some links:
http://www.medalsofhistory.com/Merch...Code=NCL-022-5
http://www.medalsofhistory.com/Merch...t_Code=NCL-125
Sorry for the bad news! Nick

[Felix]

Can we be sure that the Latvija shield is repro?

There is a matching one at Collectors Guild.

Regarding the rest of the insignia I agree that they are fakes.

[CaliforniaGigol]

Can we be sure that the Latvija shield is repro?

There is a matching one at Collectors Guild.

Regarding the rest of the insignia I agree that they are fakes.

Yes, I also saw this same LATVIJA shield on Collectors Guild and I thought it looked the same. I'm no expert though, just a beginner. Am I missing something between the comparison of these two shields?

As for the rest......sucks and shame on me, but it just shows me I have a lot to learn and I hope to do so with your help. Thanks a lot guys.

[C. Kleijn]

All the shields are fake in my opinion, also the Latvian shield on the website of the CG. The Danish, Dutch and Latvian were exactly the ones I mentioned one year ago:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=Latvian

With all the best,

Cees