Rare SS-parka - value?

[Gran Sasso]

I was offered that one, it was found in the ardennes in 1958, and was never in any collectors hand. The price I have to pay is at least 3.000,-EUR. Would this be a good deal? I dont collect SS anylonger, but could use it in trade for some para-stuff.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

[Spanish Freiwillige]

want this at www.warelics.com for sale, costum made garments have to be seen with the out most supicion in my opinion.

Unless you know the vet that used it or you are comfortable knowing it might be a post war built with original material, then go for it, otherwise pass

[Gran Sasso]

This piece was neither offered for sale there (or anywhere else), nor is it custom made.

This type of parka is normally called "norwegian-style", as the only fotos showing it in wear - so far - are of norwegian police / border patrols in the 1950s.

But that one definately came out of the ardennes.

"Collectors******180; guilde" had one for sale a while ago, but I cant recall his price.

[prorege1]

Looks like the Norwegian manufactured parka discussed on this forum in earlier posts ... there is some doubt whether this type of parka was issued and distributed prior to the German capitulation in May 1945 or if it was made for the Norwegian army just after the war, so if it's found in the Ardennes and is a left-over from the Ardennes offensive Dec 1944/Jan 1945 then it's almost a miracle (if you believe the story )

[Bob Hritz]

This is very attractive, but I am not aware of the actual government production of this type parka. I thought they were conversions from camo tarnjackes. Perhaps better photos would help, but I cannot find this type of parka in my references, other than conversions.

Is this the rabbit fur lined parka, that we most often see made from Italian camo marerial? If so, it could be a government contract piece as issued.

Bob Hritz

[prorege1]

Here is a link:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...orwegian+parka

[Gran Sasso]

Here is a link:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...orwegian+parka

Thanks for the link, very helpful! So based on the dates in that link, it is possible that a parka like this was used in the ardennes.

[Mark Edward C]

not textbook

no, it's custom as were many camo items like plam tree shirts used on the eastern front etc...just look at your combat pics. in your extensive library. I think it's very cool anyway and my be perfectly real. Value may be lower due to the nature of the piece...but not always. Sasso, find a guy that loves it...I think one needs to look closer at these and pics won't do it justice...
I have a few custom pieces from vets and they can be wonderful additions. Unfortunately, they get a thumbs down on forums because no one has books for reference--no self-taught Guru has done it yet...HA.

Mark

[Bob Hritz]

Mark,

I have been looking for a few custom made pieces, made from smocks. I would love to see you post them.

Bob Hritz

[Bax]

Hi,

These was made by a sivilian manufacture that made some (I do not know, but a guess around 100 is often mentioned and seems accurate). They all look the same and have the same sheepskin inside, german buttons is used etc. They are all made in oak leaf.

You will sometimes find them without the sheepskin (it has been removed), this was most likely done when they was in use by the Norwegian army after the war. They was used together with SS smock, helmet covers etc. as camouflage cloting and it would be quite warm during summer with the sheep skin. (To be precise this equipment was used by the Home Gard units and not the regular army.)

In the Norwegian War museum you will find documentation on the initial order from 1944 etc. The use of the Parka during the war was very limited.

Please note that a jacket was made for the Norwegian Paras much later as well. This is made from left over german oak leaf cotton duck. This does look more like a English Denison Smock with a lot of pockets for magacines, grenades etc. It does not resembles german wartime manufacture or design. When people refer to norwegian made garments in SS cloth, this is the one they have seen.)

Rgds
P******229;l

[Gran Sasso]

Thanks for all the replys so far, I learned a lot.

So what do they sell for usual (if there is a market)?

[Bax]

I was offered that one, it was found in the ardennes in 1958, and was never in any collectors hand. The price I have to pay is at least 3.000,-EUR. Would this be a good deal? I dont collect SS anylonger, but could use it in trade for some para-stuff.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

Hi,

Pricing this item would of course be difficult as most people interested would be Norwegian collectors. Remember that most of the older collectors got this when found in old army storage (yes, often with smocks and helmet covers as well). So if we asume that the market would be the (slightly) younger collectors and that a Smock would be prefarable (textbook discussion...), a price below a smock would be expected.

Rgds
Pål

[Gran Sasso]

Thanks again. As the swap I had in mind would not work, I have put it on the estand. I only mention this here for those who are interested to take a look at some details - not as advertising.