unit transfers

[Anthony Evans]

I had a question about when a member of the alleg. transfered to the waffen or if a waffen member transfered to a different unit. Would the member have to change his cuff title and collar insignia?

[Bobwirtz]

If you were in the Das Reich Division and transferred to Gotz von Berlichingen for example, you would change cuffbands. If you transferred to a unit that was not authorized a cuffband, you could maintain your Das Reich cuffband. If you were in 1. SS-Totenkopf-Kavallerie-Standarte and the unit transitioned to SS-Kavallerie-Regiment 1, then you would exchange your skull collar tab for the runic one. If you were transferred into a foreign volunteer unit and you were German, you could keep your runic collar tab, or as some Germans did, change to the foreign volunteer collar tab and wear the runic pocket patch. This was done to show unity with the foreign volunteers. Of course many of them wore the runic collar tabs, which was against orders. SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Karl Demelhuber was the first commanding officer of the Germania Regiment in Hamburg in 1934 and wore that cuffband throughout the war, even though he commanded the 6. SS-Gebirgs-Division for 9 months - the Nord Division didn't have an authorized cuffband so he could keep his Germania. This is a general answer to your question.

Bob

[BenVK]

If you were in the Das Reich Division and transferred to Gotz von Berlichingen for example, you would change cuffbands. If you transferred to a unit that was not authorized a cuffband, you could maintain your Das Reich cuffband. If you were in 1. SS-Totenkopf-Kavallerie-Standarte and the unit transitioned to SS-Kavallerie-Regiment 1, then you would exchange your skull collar tab for the runic one. If you were transferred into a foreign volunteer unit and you were German, you could keep your runic collar tab, or as some Germans did, change to the foreign volunteer collar tab and wear the runic pocket patch. This was done to show unity with the foreign volunteers. Of course many of them wore the runic collar tabs, which was against orders. SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Karl Demelhuber was the first commanding officer of the Germania Regiment in Hamburg in 1934 and wore that cuffband throughout the war, even though he commanded the 6. SS-Gebirgs-Division for 9 months - the Nord Division didn't have an authorized cuffband so he could keep his Germania. This is a general answer to your question.

Bob

Wow, simple really isn't it?!

[Luca Ongaro]

If you were in the Das Reich Division and transferred to Gotz von Berlichingen for example, you would change cuffbands. If you transferred to a unit that was not authorized a cuffband, you could maintain your Das Reich cuffband. If you were in 1. SS-Totenkopf-Kavallerie-Standarte and the unit transitioned to SS-Kavallerie-Regiment 1, then you would exchange your skull collar tab for the runic one. If you were transferred into a foreign volunteer unit and you were German, you could keep your runic collar tab, or as some Germans did, change to the foreign volunteer collar tab and wear the runic pocket patch. This was done to show unity with the foreign volunteers. Of course many of them wore the runic collar tabs, which was against orders. SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Karl Demelhuber was the first commanding officer of the Germania Regiment in Hamburg in 1934 and wore that cuffband throughout the war, even though he commanded the 6. SS-Gebirgs-Division for 9 months - the Nord Division didn't have an authorized cuffband so he could keep his Germania. This is a general answer to your question.

Bob

Now a question, why OTTO KUMM didn't change his cufftitle when was trasferred from Prinz Eugen to LAH

[Bobwirtz]

There are always exceptions to the rules and who is going to tell a general what to do? What I said was general guidelines that I know of... whether they were followed or not is another question.

Bob

[Anthony Evans]

thank you for the info