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**BLASSIC** · 05-31-2006, 09:23 AM

TRY THIS to see this item :

http://cgi.ebay.de/ERBSENTARN-PANZER...QQcmdZViewItem

**heinrich66** · 05-31-2006, 10:16 AM

Seller is RALF HAAS - do a search on the forum- that will tell enough

**Fritz** · 05-31-2006, 11:27 AM

IMO this is not a period piece...

Cheers

Fritz

**Luca Ongaro** · 05-31-2006, 03:53 PM

I don't lke button holes and buttons. Not good IMO.

**Fred S** · 05-31-2006, 04:09 PM

I had the look to the first pic, then to the BW stamp, then turn off the Ebay link.

**Scott A. Hess** · 05-31-2006, 07:12 PM

The half dozen originals I've held/examined all exhibited this type of butthon hole..that is..the button holes being made with a regular foot attachment for a sewing machine..and not professionally done with the Recce gimp cording machine..as would be seen on wool tunics, so.this does not bother me if in fact what Im seeing is this type of button hole and if the pictures are not misleading...the pants both panzer and kielhosen often exhibit a mixture of the two....however..even with the button holes..i do entertain serious doubts as to the pieces authenticity. The bleed through is excessive...the greens are quite reminiscent of the Janke dyes which are not spot on with the originals...and the lack of other obvious features that should be present in the execution ..weaving and printing..of the hbt material. Beyond that there are other details which are not shown...which one would like to examine..but given what I see.I would not go any further with this piece. The markings are also not consistent with what I have encountered and donot appear to be in the appropriate place.or appropriate for this type of jacket.

**camomania** · 06-01-2006, 06:58 AM

I think it's repro.

Please let me know RALF HAAS.

camomania

**sunny59** · 06-04-2006, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Scott A. Hess

The half dozen originals I've held/examined all exhibited this type of butthon hole..that is..the button holes being made with a regular foot attachment for a sewing machine..and not professionally done with the Recce gimp cording machine..as would be seen on wool tunics, so.this does not bother me if in fact what Im seeing is this type of button hole and if the pictures are not misleading...the pants both panzer and kielhosen often exhibit a mixture of the two....however..even with the button holes..i do entertain serious doubts as to the pieces authenticity. The bleed through is excessive...the greens are quite reminiscent of the Janke dyes which are not spot on with the originals...and the lack of other obvious features that should be present in the execution ..weaving and printing..of the hbt material. Beyond that there are other details which are not shown...which one would like to examine..but given what I see.I would not go any further with this piece. The markings are also not consistent with what I have encountered and donot appear to be in the appropriate place.or appropriate for this type of jacket.

Scott, if we ever have a chance to share a cup of coffee I am sure I will be all ears on anything you may said regarding this hobby

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