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    #16
    jkt

    a very nice jacket mike ,ive after one for a long time will

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      #17
      Great jacket, I passed on a combi like 25 years ago at a gun show, wish I had picked them up!
      Steve

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        #18
        Attached are photos of my Italian camo tunic. the shoulder boards and loops are original. The sleeve eagle was post-war removed and it is clear where it had been zig-zag sewn to the sleeve.

        The cano material has very faint colors, with some fading. However, I doubt it was ever very vibrant. The inside reinfocing material is Heer splinter pattern.

        It is one of the tunics I have found with a believable post-Normandy bringback.

        Bob Hritz
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        In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

        Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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          #19
          Interior
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          In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

          Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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            #20
            Lazy roller coaster reinforcing on reverse of collar.
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            Last edited by Bob Hritz; 06-22-2006, 10:19 PM.
            In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

            Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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              #21
              Missing sleeve eagle
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              In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

              Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Mike C
                Hi Gary,

                No offence taken at all. I suspect that your reference to the two pocket version is based on the images of Wunsche and his adjutant Isecke(and frankly the absence of lower pockets for a tank crewman would make sense). I am now scanning for pictures that would show something similar - after a quick search I would note that the image of Hans Waldmuller (H. Meyer's history of the 12th SS, page B-11) clearly shows him wearing a four pocket tunic with unpleated lower pockets - but no clear image of the upper pockets). Having quickly gone through a couple of references, I can't find an image of a full tunic - but do note one or two images of unpleated bottom pockets and a very few pleated top pockets.

                This tunic has never had shoulder boards - or the camo rank badges. Perhaps the pleated breast pockets were an officers only perk - as borne out by photographic evidence that seems to suggest that these tunics (within the 12th SS were more commonly worn by officers).

                As for this tunic - it is what it is: a clone of a M43 tunic utterly without frills (perhaps done in Italy and not Normandy)?

                I look forward to your comments. Cheers,

                Mike
                I love the tunics made from italian camo. They came in an endless variety of styles. Don't forget they were popular with the Army and LW too. Some different SS styles. WR Jim
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                  #23
                  116th Panzer
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                    #24
                    Really nice tunics, I had one once made from a cut down parka in Italian camo and it had officer collar insignias the piece had definately been there.

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                      #25
                      a very nice jacket Bob

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bob Hritz
                        Attached are photos of my Italian camo tunic. the shoulder boards and loops are original. The sleeve eagle was post-war removed and it is clear where it had been zig-zag sewn to the sleeve.

                        The cano material has very faint colors, with some fading. However, I doubt it was ever very vibrant. The inside reinfocing material is Heer splinter pattern.

                        It is one of the tunics I have found with a believable post-Normandy bringback.

                        Bob Hritz
                        Your tunic is superb Bob. Is the same Rare italian M1929 camouflage?
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                        Siam fatti cosi!

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                          #27
                          hello,

                          here is a color picture of this kinf of italian camouflaged tunic :



                          the man wearing it on the left is Ostubaf. Milius, from 12 sspz-div HJ in june 1944 in Normandy.

                          it's my first try to put an image, i hope it will be ok...

                          derka

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