Fake SS Posters?

[TonyS]

I posted these over in the Paper forum, but thought it may hit home more over here.

I was wondering if anyone has seen these two posters before and if they are fakes or not?

They do not look good to me and I thought the words "zu uns" should not have the umlauts over them on the 12 SS Hitlerjugend poster.

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[TonyS]

Horst Wessel

[John T]

HI Tony...I can not say on these two for sure...but I do know that they are making fake SS "fantasy" posters in the former USSR and selling them here for about $ 150.00 at shows...they are done on some old looking almost "rubbery" paper as I recall the size is about 2 foot by 3 foot or so...I have also seen fake Anti-Semetic posters...I call the fake SS posters "fantasy" posters because I think they are not copies of anything that really existed but rather something put together with a graphics program and the imagination of the faker.

John

[TonyS]

Thanks John. Interesting info.

Member Gene provided this answer on the Paper forum.

"Yeah, they're fake. The u's shouldn't have Umlauts and the word "Division" must have a capital D. Nice looking pieces otherwise though!"

[Gilles C.]

The "-" you see above "zu uns" were here to help the eye make the difference between n, m and u.
They were no "******252;".

You'll find as well the same sign above a letter that should be doubled, but the writer is too lazy to do it or doesn't have the place to. Was more used during ww1 than ww2, example: Komando with a "-" above the m, as it should be written Kommando.

Regards
Gilles

[RD Rygaard]

The HJ image was an original postcard & poster minus the div emb & HJ text.The "KZU" slogan was the same with same mark over the letters.Even if fake still a nice image.