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**Martin Stiles** · 12-23-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by prorege1

A merry Christmas to all!!

I liked the above displays so in the meantime I used my original 1944 candlelight and threw the original cardboard box in the trashbin, but I kept the julleuchter and the documents..

Nice

**Robin Lumsden** · 12-23-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Martin Stiles

so it does

is it the same design as on the floor in the gruppenfuhrer halle at
webelsburg??

Yes Martin. It's one and the same.

Wewelsburg is full of 'twelves', like the 12 sig-runes here. There were 12 columns in the Gruppenfuehrersaal and 12 pedestals in the crypt. It's all to do with the so-called magic 12.......12 signs of the zodiac, 12 months of the year, 12 knights of the round table, 12 apostles, 12 hours on a clockface, etc. etc. etc.

The Black Sun has a combination of the numbers 12 and 3 (12 sig-runes and 3 swastikas) which seem to have had some sort of mystical significance for Himmler. The castle had 3 sides, symbolising (for Himmler at least) the 3 elements (air. fire and water), the 3 ages of man (birth, life and death), the 3 parts of the cosmos (sun, moon and stars), the holy trinity (father, son and spirit), etc. etc. etc. To say nothing of the '3 Reichs'.

So there is more to the Black Sun than meets the eye!

**Mr. Scratch** · 12-23-2005, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by prorege1

I liked the above displays so in the meantime I used my original 1944 candlelight and threw the original cardboard box in the trashbin, but I kept the julleuchter and the documents..

You mean the original box the Julleuchter came in? Or the pictured box the candle was in? Either way; Yikes!

**prorege1** · 12-23-2005, 04:11 PM

Doesn't matter - it all went up in flames! Happy New Year

**RD Rygaard** · 12-23-2005, 08:13 PM

Very good Robin! Couldnt have explained it better myself!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Robin Lumsden

Yes Martin. It's one and the same.

Wewelsburg is full of 'twelves', like the 12 sig-runes here. There were 12 columns in the Gruppenfuehrersaal and 12 pedestals in the crypt. It's all to do with the so-called magic 12.......12 signs of the zodiac, 12 months of the year, 12 knights of the round table, 12 apostles, 12 hours on a clockface, etc. etc. etc.

The Black Sun has a combination of the numbers 12 and 3 (12 sig-runes and 3 swastikas) which seem to have had some sort of mystical significance for Himmler. The castle had 3 sides, symbolising (for Himmler at least) the 3 elements (air. fire and water), the 3 ages of man (birth, life and death), the 3 parts of the cosmos (sun, moon and stars), the holy trinity (father, son and spirit), etc. etc. etc. To say nothing of the '3 Reichs'.

So there is more to the Black Sun than meets the eye!

**Terry K.** · 12-24-2005, 09:07 AM

Fantastik Thread !!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!
Yours,

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