Help with SS smock

[Albert]

Dear All,

I am not an SS collector so my knowledege is quite limited and that's why I am asking for your help. I've had this smock for decades now and don't know anything about it. What type is it? Let me know if you need more pics.

It has what looks like battlefield damge and repairs. If otherwise ok, how would that affect the value?

Thanks and best regards,

Albert

[Albert]

Close up:

[Albert]

The other side:

[Fritz]

The pattern appears to be a plane tree overprint (oakleaf backround), the smock itself appears to be a relativly early version. This is a combination that I would consider odd...Also there are some things that are "incorrect", especialy the summer color sections that can be seen on the autumn side (pocket flaps, concealment flap), the pocket reinforcment is on the "wrong" side ...Also that several different patterns were used in an early smock is not the rule (I think I can see Plane tree overprint, plane tree fully handscreened and palm patter sections).This all is no 100% proof for a bad smock as some period smocks exsisted with such features but the whole combination is very odd I think.

The way the smock has been reworked can also be found on wartime example. But it's heavily reworked: Shortened, removed waist line rubber section, shortened sleeves/cuffs aslo removing the rubber band ...cutting it the way it can be worn as a jacket (but not fully? Semi repaired or was this modification not finished???)...

So far I would tend to say that it's not something I'd like to have. But if you want you can post pictures of the back, the rear section of the collar, the waist line and the shoulder section....

Cheers

Fritz

[Panzergrenadiere71]

It look OK to me but I'll wait opinions from advanced collectors.If original the value is about 6000€ or more


Cheers
Emilio

[Mike C]

I think this smock is fine - but of course very heavily modified. I once owned a smock (out of Poland in the early '90s) that was a late M40 with plane tree overprint (3/4 I think) on oakleaf overlay. This smock has had the waist band removed, cuffs shortend and has been split and then repaired down the centre. I would say the value on this to be $4000-5000; if unmodified $8000-9000 USD.

Mike

[Albert]

Back 1:

[Albert]

Back 2:

[Albert]

Rear section of the collar:

[Albert]

Waist line:

[Albert]

Back 5:

[Albert]

Thanks Guys,

I have absolutely no doubt that it's original. What I don't understand is why would they do those alterations / modifications? Any input welcome.

Thanks again,

Albert

[Fritz]

Thanks Guys,

I have absolutely no doubt that it's original. What I don't understand is why would they do those alterations / modifications? Any input welcome.

Thanks again,

Albert

Personal taste and practical needs were the main reasons. When the smock was worn over a coat it was comonly modified (wider cuffs by removing the rubber bands etc.). It seems that the front was fully open once and is now partialy closed by a resewn reinforcement placket....though I am not sure from these pics but it seems to be too large for a factory one...

From these additional pics I now tend to say it's a good one with several unusual aspects and that the smock itself is not shortened. The pattern is plane tree 3/4 overprint...Still it's heavily reworked and seems to have a few repairs I would agree with Mike as for the value if you have a good platform to sell it (dealer), if not it will perhaps "only" gain 3000-4000usd....But maybe more if you find a collector that is willing to pay some extra money for the unusual features this smock has .--who knows?.... You must try.

Cheers

Fritz

[Fred Fokkelman]

It looks like a reworked/tailored smock, but IMO 100% original and great looking!

[Matthew S.]

Man, these things always give me wet dreams. Nice smock.