EM panzer shoulder straps, SS or Army?

[spectre]

I was wondering if these straps are SS or Army or were they interchangable? The pictures are kind of cut in half but they do have some overlap, I wanted to show as much detail as I could.
Thanks, Alan

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bottom half

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inside

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bottom

[Bobwirtz]

I believe these would be SS because the tongue on one side is black... I stand to be corrected. You didn't ask if they were authentic, so I'm guessing you know that they aren't...

Bob

[spectre]

I didn't feel the need to ask if they were authentic because I asked John Angolia that 19 years ago and he said they were good. When I was a whole lot younger and didn't know anything I sent all the ss cloth I had at the time to him and these were in the good stack. I did have plenty of things that turned out bad and I took them back to where I got them.

Alan

[Panzer Bob]

SS or Army?

Alan,
Without getting into issues of authenticity, the conventional wisdom would have it that these are SS straps. Two main reasons: narrow tongues and field-gray bottoms. It is more common to see army-style straps on SS wraps than it is the other way around (supply and demand).
Regards,
Bob Edwards

[galizien41]

I agree with bob. If you are happy with them then enjoy!

[spectre]

All right then, since you all don't like them can you please tell me what is so obviously wrong with them? These are the only enlisted straps I have and got these 20 years ago, I am into badges now and LW in particular, so I am no expert in this area.

Thanks, Alan

[Lucky Duck]

The pink piping, made from cloth folded over a cord is the type you might find on a pair of civilian woman's pajamas. It is not the fine wool, or the rayon cord of original boards. I think this is likely a case of "Angolia strikes again". That being said, I once had a pair similar to these, which came on an M-36 tunic, of very good provenance. I sold the boards as copies, but wondered a bit.

Ray

[Bobwirtz]

Also the button holes are incorrect, especially the zig-zag stitching, the stitching on the back of the strap itself, some of the materials do not look correct - not the ones they used during the period. The pink piping is the wrong material as mentioned above.

Bob

[B. N. Singer]

Shame, shame, that Angolia fellow "sanctioned" these as original! I can't imagine he didn't know better.

B. N. Singer