Artifact from the Wevelsburg?? stamped: 'REICHSFÜHRERSCHULE - BURG WEVELSBURG - SS'.

[oli4vercammen]

english

For me as a Fleming it is often difficult to understand some words and as a result of that unknown word the whole sentence... BUT I've bought myself a secondhand dictionary at the recicle market and I try to adapt. It's an English furum and we all have to write the best english as we can, so some of us will do better than others, but we have to accept that.

So, Donald Abenheim, write like usual, than I can learn and use my dictionary again

Olivier Vercammen

[Robin Lumsden]

Olivier.

Can I say that I have a VERY high admiration for you and everyone else on this forum who do not speak English as a first language.

Many of you use English better than native English speakers!

Too many of us take it for granted that everyone should speak English which is, I think, a sad indictment on our educational system over here (the UK at least).

By the way - I see you are from Schoten. Does that have any historical connection with the Scots??

[Bob Hritz]

Donald,

Your style of epistle is one that I find delightful. As a youngster, I was taught to elevate oneself through the proper use of grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, and style. The most saddening part of our current educational system is that we now teach to the lowest standards to make education 'inclusive' and to evoke warmth into the psyche's of those who must attend educational insitutuions, with little desire to elevate themselves to their highest potential.

Whenever I do a slip, and find myself sinking into the murky 'street' language, I find myself repulsed, upon a second reading, at a later date. You will see many of my posts edited, often at far later dates, because the misplaced punctuation, the dangling participal, or the misspelling is more than I can bear. It is never appropriate to lower ones' grammar to your native speaking population. Great orators and writers are an inspiration, not a perplexity. For fun, I used to diagram Charles Dickens' sentences from "The Pickwick Papers". What a joy to read and digest the complexity of the language, when performed by a great wordsmith.

Bob Hritz
A fan of Charles Dickens and Julius Caesar; masters of the ABLATIVE ABSOLUTE.

[Lucky Duck]

No need to be defensive. Addressing a non-naitive speaker's question in an unpretentious, uncomplicated manner is an obvious common courtesy. Apparently, its not so obvious to some.

Ray

[Arran]

Yes, its one thing to observe correct grammar, syntax, punctuation etc., but Donald, you must admit you occassionally lapse into moments of self-indulgence and affectation...I think even Oscar Wilde would have been left scratching his head at times! That said, I quite like the way you express yourself, personally (even when I don't fully understand it)! We need more unique thinkers in this world...

Cheers,
Arran.

[oli4vercammen]

Although I participated, we are drifting off. We could better discuss this in the kneipe and start focussing on "cocos post".
coco, I'm sory that I didn't answer your question first, but I don't trust this ink stamp and I concur to Donalds post about it.
Oli4

P.S. Schoten has nothing common with Schotland. It could come from the Frankish word 'scot': when you make it longer to 'Scoten', it could mean tax (the place where taxes where collected) or a fence (the place where lots of fences where placed, to hold the cattle). Or there is a third explenation that it was a place that was higher than the swamp: it shot up, out off the marshlands. Schoten is in Dutch/Flemish the same as shot in english.

[Ian Hulley]

While-ever Donald sees fit to share his extensive knowledge and scholarly accumen with us I pray he continues in whatever language and style he sees fit.

Deepest thanks,Ian.

[Bob Coleman]

I also am uncomfortable with the ink stamp. I would concur with those who have taken the position that embossing on leather would be considered proper.
As to the manner in which Donald expresses himself, I only wish that I had the command of the English language that he constantly exudes. I have found his posts enlightening and his prose a challenge for self improvement.
Vov

[ricky1972]

English is not my first language, but Mr. Donald style of writing is a good reason to keep coming back even when the new topics runs like a carrousell of the same subjects - I´m including my own posts on this

Also great discussion over the ink or embossed stamping.

Cheers!!

Ricky

[ReichsHeini]

I personally have run into original leather pieces that have embossing on the smooth side and other ink type markings on the unfinished (suede) side.

Although I have no idea what this item is, I am not as fast to discount it based on embossing or lack of such.
Jerry

[Sayle F]

Da

Hey, If you don't like the way Donald so eloquently expresses his expertise here , Get back on the bus and go home. He knows more about this stuff than many I have ever known, let alone being far more the Gentleman! At least more than I.

[B. N. Singer]

I have read this whole thing between Donald Abenheim and "Luck Duck" (and all those who have chosen to "jump on the band wagon") with disappointment.

Let me say, that I don't know either of these people, but doesn't everyone think this has gone a little too far. To me, it is reminiscent of 3rd graders on the playground! Totally "unprofessional" and something that, as a newcomer, I would not have expected to encounter on an informational forum.

Perhaps the moderator might have wanted to say a few words to avoid all this.

I full well expect to get "railed on" for the above comment, but in any case, I would like to see things get back to the main purpose of why people come to visit here.

B. N. Singer

[Bob Coleman]

I have read this whole thing between Donald Abenheim and "Luck Duck" (and all those who have chosen to "jump on the band wagon") with disappointment.

Let me say, that I don't know either of these people, but doesn't everyone think this has gone a little too far. To me, it is reminiscent of 3rd graders on the playground! Totally "unprofessional" and something that, as a newcomer, I would not have expected to encounter on an informational forum.

Perhaps the moderator might have wanted to say a few words to avoid all this.

I full well expect to get "railed on" for the above comment, but in any case, I would like to see things get back to the main purpose of why people come to visit here.

B. N. Singer

Mr. Singer-
Welcome to the Forum. I see no reason that anyone would "rail" on you. I agree that this thread has become sidetracked by Lucky Duck's comments. This has become an all too common situation on Forums. However, I do not believe this is an issue between Lucky Duck and Dr. Abenheim. I would suggest that by reading the various posts, the membership has taken the time to support Donald and the great amount of knowledge he possesses and shares with all of us. Lucky Duck took a cheap shot at a valued member and the membership has taken exception to the remarks. I hope we can all move forward in a positive direction at this time and return to discussing the items we study and collect.
Bob

[B. N. Singer]

Mr. Singer-
Welcome to the Forum. I see no reason that anyone would "rail" on you. I agree that this thread has become sidetracked by Lucky Duck's comments. This has become an all too common situation on Forums. However, I do not believe this is an issue between Lucky Duck and Dr. Abenheim. I would suggest that by reading the various posts, the membership has taken the time to support Donald and the great amount of knowledge he possesses and shares with all of us. Lucky Duck took a cheap shot at a valued member and the membership has taken exception to the remarks. I hope we can all move forward in a positive direction at this time and return to discussing the items we study and collect.
Bob

Good morning Bob,

Thank you for your comments (and welcome).

I certainly intended no besmirchment of you (as a moderator).

I suppose that, as we are all frail humans, our vanity gets the better of the best of us from time to time (which might perhaps explain this particular occurrence).

I will continue to read, with enjoyment, the posts on this forum and hope, as you indicated, that we all can "get back to the business of collecting"

With best regards,
B. N. Singer

[Coco]

Again something very strange....

Dear all,

This is a recent find: a off-white ceramic vase (approx. 40 cm in eight) fully decorated with runes, swastika's and wolfhooks. A 100% period item....who knows more?

Best regards,

Coco