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I asked the question to Robert E, not to you Jacques!Originally posted by jacquesf View Post
It looks like you want to distort the debate, it's strange.
Look at this one, same felt around the visorComment
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you need to study visor caps well, very well. Just see how the sweatband goes to the front visor, this lacks quality and same way like you see it in the link posted above.Comment
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Some new shots of the sweatband around the visor. Hope it helpsComment
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This cap was discovered at LUBECK 5 years ago, most likely from a veteran. It has been well preserved over all these years. Just a few small moth holes on the front piping. The cap having been crushed over the years and due to lack of attention, a bead has formed on the front and thus served for moths to make their nest. Here are the photos that were taken by the picker just after the discovery. I was lucky to be able to buy it. It was very expensive. This story is real, I invent nothing.
It is not for sale, at any price.
Probably one of the most desirable SS crusher I 've seen on 50 years of collection.Comment
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I really like it from the pics, a fine original in my opinion but an in hand inspection could confirm either way!
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It's a beautiful cap most of us would be happy to own. I understand some don't like it and have set metrics for what constitutes real or fake, and that's fine.
Enjoy the cap for what it is.
regards, RobertComment
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CONCLUSION
On one side, 12 like the cap. I understand you.
On the other side, 3 criticize it:
- the first advance elements which could be true in the case of a bad cap, which is not the case here.
He says :First red flag is the difference between the outside and inside of the cap.
I say : it’s completely wrong, this visor presents a light use inside and outside
He says : Second, the liner and pleats are a mess.
I say : look at the photos, everything is perfect and untouched
He says : Thirdly, attachenent of leather swetaband, especially at the back
I say : Back attachment is correct for a 42/43 erel production
He says : Fourthly, attachment of black capband.
I say : how can he says that by never having had it in hands
Moreover, the four examples he presented in this thread are early Alter Art.
Mine is a late production.
- the second knows nothing about visor caps (I brought the proof) and tells inconsistent things.
He says : Capband is way too sloppy attached, uneven wear, Liner not right, and the Piping for me is the nail in the Coffin. Nothing i would want to touch at all. Nice try, with real Insignia. But, not good enough.
I say : no comment
- the third speaks to say nothing
I say : no comment
Many thanks to the believers.
And for the others, nobody can be sure of their opinions of an item until they have it in their own hands. Mostly in the headgears field.
YES, Waffen SS Erel visor caps have been produced during WW2.
The one presented in this threads is the proof.Comment
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don´t forget the collectors that also don´t like it that don´t post here and know especially Erel visors very well. But on the end its you alone who has to decide, especially before spending money on it.Comment
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Jeez you are light on facts. In the headgear forum, just below your other thread on this "crusher" is a thread, 13 years old, that clearly states and accepted that Erel made SS officers visors. So you have proofed nothingOriginally posted by pieand View Post
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=211378Comment
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