M-36 Der Speiss Tunic

[drbill]

Der Speiss WSS M-36 tunic. Discussion welcome.

[billbert]

Not a tunic guru ...but WOW !! Billbert

[tgn]

Super

Tom

[c.rotte]

Nice tunic But ... it's still Der SpIEss. Not speiss. That's the proper German word for food.

Regards, Kees

[jacquesf]

I would need better detailed pics of certain areas, before I get exited. Certain things bother me from these pics only. For one, eagle and eagle application on a private purchase tunic? J

[istra63]

The tunic looks like a good Konrad Simon tailored example.
Can we get a good photo of the runic collar tab.
All the other insignia looks original and original to the tunic.
I am a little surprised a rank of such standing (Der Spiess)
does not have a Edelweiss arm badge being a member of the
Nord Division.

[Ralph Arndt]

[drbill]

runic tab

The tunic looks like a good Konrad Simon tailored example.
Can we get a good photo of the runic collar tab.
All the other insignia looks original and original to the tunic.
I am a little surprised a rank of such standing (Der Spiess)
does not have a Edelweiss arm badge being a member of the
Nord Division.

here ya go

[Graham G]

The tunic looks like a good Konrad Simon tailored example.
Can we get a good photo of the runic collar tab.
All the other insignia looks original and original to the tunic.
I am a little surprised a rank of such standing (Der Spiess)
does not have a Edelweiss arm badge being a member of the
Nord Division.

What does Spiess have to do with Nord? It's a standard position that all units would have had.

[drbill]

answer

What does Spiess have to do with Nord? It's a standard position that all units would have had.

Der Spiess is a general rank but the 6 on the shoulder board could indicate that this Spiess was in the Nord Division (Gebirgsjager unit).

[pauke]

While it's part of the discussion, the term is simply "Spiess". No "der" needed with it. And it was a position, not a rank. A friend was made "Spiess" in his company and he had the rank of Unteroffizier. When a visiting general later saw this he did tell the commander to raise his rank to Feldwebel.

[Vic]

I sea this tunic at kelly hicks site time ago
I do think is a very nice and good tunic.
Only missed and edelweiss in the sleeve?

[jürgen]

May you excuse my question.
But wasnt the Edelweiss for SS Gebirgstruppen introduced later in year 43??


I know a lot of Pics of the Nord and on M40 and M36 Cut tunics there arent any Edelweiss...??

Also the Prinz Eugen didnt have them on These Type of Tunics / time period?

[Vic]

Really I am not sure....this is the reason because i did have doubts!
Bit possible an edelweiss, isnt it?

[Graham G]

Correct re: spiess not being a rank. Hence I used "position"

I did not see the 6. But, SS Edelweiss wasn't authorized until oct 43 or so, and for Nord, you see plenty of guys without it even in 1945.