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    8x60 fat one w/ eagle ???.

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    https://m.ebay.com/itm/Carl-Zeiss-bl...%257Ciid%253A4

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    This is a better effort;

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carl-Zeiss-J...75.c100623.m-1

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      #3
      I thought these fat ones had no eagles at all, not for me

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        #4
        Originally posted by MOLEHUNTER View Post
        He has used enough filler to give it a "smooth" finish

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          #5
          I think the seller knows it's suspect - his non eagle marked pair are listed for more;

          http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carl-Zeiss...EAAOSw1MBZyOV8

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            #6
            Originally posted by Sgt Bilko View Post
            I think the seller knows it's suspect - his non eagle marked pair are listed for more;

            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carl-Zeiss...EAAOSw1MBZyOV8
            Must be a very short serial number on this one. Check out the photo´s

            The other one is weird as well, serial number is in a grinded out panel.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mikedenmark View Post

              The other one is weird as well, serial number is in a grinded out panel.

              I think thats grinded part is original . My BNZA 8X60 do also have it .




              https://flic.kr/p/YRmbiW
              Last edited by zeissasembi; 09-26-2017, 11:00 PM.

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                #8
                When I look at both those commendanten glas it looks like the ocular rings are changed.
                They look brand new and the second bino without eagle looks also refinished.


                Do you agree with me?



                Andy

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AndyC View Post
                  When I look at both those commendanten glas it looks like the ocular rings are changed.
                  They look brand new and the second bino without eagle looks also refinished.


                  Do you agree with me?



                  Andy



                  Well spotted Andy. I agree. The focus adjustment assemblies appear to be crude replacements. They are often broken. The ocular eye guards are also missing the usual screw and nut assemblies. I would not be surprised if the ocular eye guards are cast replacements as well.





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                    #10
                    blc 8x60 'fat one' w/eagle

                    I give my following observations for the benefit of those with an interest =

                    a. The 8x60 with the created 'emblem' has been opened ,cleaned & serviced in the recent past. It also displays signs of repainting, but not recently. The ocular inserts may be replacements if they are not bakelite construction. Nothing particularly detrimental about any of the aformentioned restoration but that created 'emblem' is truly the 'thumbs down' A great pity that basically a good example has been abused in this manner!

                    b. The other 8x60 has been opened,cleaned & serviced and repainted recently.
                    The ocular inserts are replacements( nothing wrong there) the screw fasteners of the fold back ocular lens covers are the wrong pattern, the lens covers could be replacement but it is difficult to tell from photos. JEDH

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                      #11
                      A new award category "The Awful Eagle Award".
                      Internal cleaning is IMO not fatal if well done , considering the age of sets but the repainting and fake eagles - totally detract and reduce value.

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                        #12
                        Post some picture of the 8x60 with the fake eagle as future reference




                        Andy
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                            https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carl-Zeis...EAAOSwrfVZXf6P
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                              #15
                              Mucking around with a good binocular like this is unforgivable IMO , greed and stupidity which I hope will result in a lesser value .

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