Regulation ??? using 6x30, 7x50, 10*50 ...

[wvdparis2]

cas anyone tell me if the was any regulation or rule stating that 6x30, 7x50 ... should be used for a specific category, branch ... (of army) or did anyone took what was available ????

thanks for your help

Michael

[MAUSER99]

great question !

I have often thought of the same thing.. The standard 6x30 dienstglas was standard issue for infantry troops.. But, when you get into the 7x50 and 10x50's it gets a little grey for me. I assume they were issued to mobile troops..

[HERMSDORF]

Enlisted Men and NCO´s got the 6x30 Binos and Officers the 7x50 or 10x50. There is a Reason why. I know it. Hey, let´s start a Quiz who knows it too

Best Regards

Andy

[benutzer]

navy used 7x50 and 8x60
navy land troops 7x50, 8x60, 6x30,8x30

land troops used 6x30, 8x30, 7x50, 10x50

which kind of bino the soldier used is a question of the soldiers fighting distance and the diameter of this aera

[wilddieb]

navy used 7x50 and 8x60
navy land troops 7x50, 8x60, 6x30,8x30

land troops used 6x30, 8x30, 7x50, 10x50

which kind of bino the soldier used is a question of the soldiers fighting distance and the diameter of this aera

dont forget the 7x56 Hensoldt used by navy land troops.

[benutzer]

yes I forgot

[wvdparis2]

Thanks for those answers

Enlisted Men and NCO´s got the 6x30 Binos and Officers the 7x50 or 10x50. There is a Reason why. I know it. Hey, let´s start a Quiz who knows it too
Best Regards
Andy

Andy can you tell us more ? I already sold many pics of officers with 6x30 !

thx
Michael

[benutzer]

Thanks for those answers

Andy can you tell us more ? I already sold many pics of officers with 6x30 !

thx
Michael

I'm not Andy but:

What do you want to know?? I can tell you 24 hours only about army and navy binoculars, Why , When, Where, ..........

[HERMSDORF]

It´s all true what all the Gentlemen have written here
Inside the German Army one of the most Important Reason why the Enlisted Men and NCO´s got the 6x30 Binos and the Officers got the 7- or 10x50 is:

Enlisted Men and NCO´s are Weapon Wearing Soldiers and the 6x30 is a ONE HAND Usable Bino. Officers carries (normally) / regularly only their small Pistol at the Belt and have both Hands free for a larger Binocular. Naturally all the other Reasons are also Correct and Important like Distances and so on... For Sure there are a lot of Pics out there with Officers wearing the 6x30 Dienst-glasses but Pictures from Soldiers or NCO´s with bigger Glasses are very rare (Army).


Andy

[Mikedenmark]

Unless the german army just bought as many binoculars they could get, there has to more to this.
There must be some kind of regulation that defines what binoculars are used by who.
How else should anyone decide to issue purchase orders?, and how many for each order?

I cannot recall ever having heard that binoculars were in short supply. Anyone can be missing one, but generally, apparently binoculars were available when needed.

Still there must be a plan behind making different models. Otherwise they would only have, say, 6x30 or 7x50. Not both.
My guess would be, that there is a plan ranging from platoon leader and up.
I have a prewar issue plan here somewhere. Covering infantry, up to the level of company commander.

It should be noted that a binocular may be issued at least in two different ways.
Either it is issued to a soldier with a function, like a platoon leader.
In case he no longer has that function, he hands over his gear issued for that function.

Or, the binocular is issued as the property of an administrative unit. Like a staff, or a service station ( Dienststelle ) There it will be listed along with items like chairs, tables, beds and everything else, that belong in the inventory of a given unit.

In a uboat, it can either belong to the boat, or to the captain.
In both cases there must be a plan for where, or who, is getting what.
The captain has one for himself. The outlooks shares the instruments of the boat.

But there definitely must be a plan for this.

[benutzer]

and it's a different between the orders in peace and the situation in the wartime !


By an U-Boot the commander and the outlooks have here own binoculars, they didnt share it !!!
On this binos you have the raincap with the word BENUTZER ( owne/user ) because they adjust the bino to here eyes !!

[Mikedenmark]

I agree with benutzer regarding the marking on the rain guard caps.

It is supposed that a user had his own binocular.
I don´t know, if that was the case in daily service.

The idea was clearly supported in 1941, when the caps appeared.
Only I have rarely seen caps with a name on. They do exist, but I find them to be scarce.

I could guess that once in service, the caps got torn off, and some other kind of markings vere used. All it takes, is a string tied around different part of the bridges of the binocular. That is harder to loose, and can be felt in darkness.

Just like soldiers marked their muzzle loarding rifles to be able to find their "own" rifle within their unit.