Flak Binocolar ?????.

[behblc]

A post war add on

These are certainly not from an armoured vehicle , the mount is a post war add on its not WW2 stuff.

The item itself is a 12x60 blc optic for a 4 metre range finder.
Excellent optics and one of the best around.

Its not an armoured vehicle optic , the position of the eye piece and the potential for injury on the move to the user , could see more than a few broken noses.

[Matt Starr]

Hello,
At beltring I saw a huge set of optics like this that were painted white, the Mount is postwar German, the Pair at Beltring were used by border guards for observation
Matt

[Ken N]

I agree with behblc:

I believe that this binocular attaches to the giant range finder. The more common Flak Binos are the "Flakfehrnrohr 10 X 80".

Here is a pic of one of my Flak binos

[Ken N]

here's another pair that I took out to the air-show to spot B-17s .... just like the old days...

[martin guerre]

Thanks all for your reponses and your knowledge about this item .Take care.Martin.

[behblc]

10x80

I had a 10x80 at an air show quite recently - its a major incentive to get there early and get a decent parking space.
Quite a carry weight wise.
Attached the 12x60 on a 4 metre RF.

[behblc]

Range finder.

Another view of the 4 metre RF with optics and crew positions.

[Simon O.]

I've always wondered, what's that frame thingy on the top for?

I agree with behblc:

I believe that this binocular attaches to the giant range finder. The more common Flak Binos are the "Flakfehrnrohr 10 X 80".

Here is a pic of one of my Flak binos

[Ken N]

The frame thingy is to use to spot an aircraft and line it up with the naked eye before looking into the optics. Basically, what lines up with the frame thingy, will line up at the center of the view range in the optic. Saves panning back and forth with your eyes glued to the eye-pieces. At least that is what I THINK it is for.

[Dallas]

I agree, certainly looks like flak binos to me. Not at all any way related to a Panzer.

[behblc]

Quicksight.

Yes , that is how the quicksight works.
A friend of mine in Belgium told me there are two types of sight one ( early type) with one bar and a later type with two bars.
The early type - place the joint of the bar and the frame on yout target and its in the optic to see.
On the second type place the target between the 2 x bars and the target can be seen , both work .

Attached the 12x60 in an exposed view with headrest up and parted , sun shade down.

[behblc]

10x80 flakglas

View of the 10x80 unit. ( Note only one plate / bar on this quicksight.).

[Simon O.]

Ahhhh, i see (literally ) . I should have known really as i'm an ex air defender myself, makes a lot of sense. In the modern world we use something called a 'pointing stick' on the rapier SAM system. It's basically just a stick with a pistol grip and trigger, mounted on a tripod very similar to the one shown above. You simply aim the stick, with it's iron sights at an aircraft, pull the trigger and the Rapier will slew round on to the target allowing the operator to pick it up in his optics quickly. What about the radar? I hear you say. Well sometimes it's better to keep it switched off, the thing will only give away your position anyhow.