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    Field made splinter jacket for your opinions.

    Gents,



    I would like to ask you, what do you think of this jacket you can see on pictures? It has nicely made lining from Italian camo, and an American button inside. Is it a kind of trophy? I 've been told that this jacket was tailored in Warsaw during Uprising in 1944. The jacket was bought from the family of a vet, who fought in Warsaw as a polish insurgent. At least that's what I heard. Thinking of all aspects of this jacket, modeled like Luftwaffe field jackets, with upper pockets shaped like sahariana tunics were made, I have serious doubts of its using in Warsaw. But even if this jacket was used there by one of the polish insurgents (maybe jacket was just taken from one of the German soldiers captured by them, this is impossible I think, that it was tailored there.

    Could you let me know what do you think of this whole jacket, and my conclusion..?

    This is very important for me to have more information about this item.



    My Warmest Regards



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    #2
    Far from being an expert but I think it has some good chances to be period done..

    ciao

    Alessio

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      #3
      Yes, I agree that it has really great chance to be period done.

      Any more suggestions Gents..? They are very appreciated.

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        #4
        Hi,

        I have some fieldmade stuff in my collection and I think this one could wel be made during the ww2 period.I agree on your conclusion that it probably was tailored in let's say Italy or other southfront country,and not in Warsaw.How it ended there will be always a mystery I guess !

        Don't pay too much and you can never go wrong.

        regards,

        Etienne

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          #5
          Interesting jacket. I am pretty skeptical about most items thought to be field-made, but this one has a pretty good chance IMO.

          It appears to be a mix of several types of uniforms. The sleeves, shoulder straps, and lower pockets are of the FD jacket style, while the length and inner draw string are FJ smock style. And as already stated, the top pockets are Sahariana style.

          My guess would be late Italian campaign. Common to see Luft troops wearing field-made camo there.
          Willi

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            #6
            Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post
            Interesting jacket. I am pretty skeptical about most items thought to be field-made, but this one has a pretty good chance IMO.

            It appears to be a mix of several types of uniforms. The sleeves, shoulder straps, and lower pockets are of the FD jacket style, while the length and inner draw string are FJ smock style. And as already stated, the top pockets are Sahariana style.

            My guess would be late Italian campaign. Common to see Luft troops wearing field-made camo there.
            +1.

            I have something very similar (although, obviously, not identical - these are all 'one offs').

            Mine came with provenance and was 'collected' in Italy.

            N

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nachrichten View Post
              +1.

              I have something very similar (although, obviously, not identical - these are all 'one offs').

              Mine came with provenance and was 'collected' in Italy.

              N
              If they are with solid provenance, they can be really nice and quite rare items in a collection. This one I have was described as made in Warsaw during the uprising, which for me is inaccurate.
              If this jacket was even worn by one of the polish insurgents, which could have please, I suppose that it was taken from one of captured Luftwaffe soldiers. Possibly from Herman Goering division. They were shifted from Italy to Warsaw within first days of the uprising. It was taken from vets family with other items related to war period and Warsaw Uprising. I have his full details, and he really fought in that district of the city, where Herman Goering division landed.
              But to verify this all is nearly, or it is impossible.
              Definitely, this jacket wasn't tailored in Warsaw and I agree, it seems to have strong provenance related with Luftwaffe units, and was tailored in Italy.
              Italian camo used as a lining, an American button, possibly as a kind of war trophy... That's quite logical.

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                #8
                I like the 4th photo down in post #1, showing the Italian camo, added in. Very unique and believable.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Kibler View Post
                  I like the 4th photo down in post #1, showing the Italian camo, added in. Very unique and believable.

                  I really like this jacket. The main issue with it is, that I was told by the collector from whom I received this item, that it was tailored in Warsaw during Uprising.
                  There are too many signs, that it was a field made for a German soldier fighting in Italy.
                  Was this jacket used in Warsaw and captured by Polish Insurgents..? There is such chance, as it was bought from vet's son. But of course, there always can be a risky matter with such stories.
                  Such exhibits are many times much more valuable in their emotional content, then by their price on the market.
                  I saw such field made jacket, but with no story in the background, it wasn't very expensive.
                  How much this nice jacket could be priced..? Sometimes I try to ask myself.

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                    #10
                    I bought an old book in Warsaw, back in the late 80's (before the Wall fell) Miasto Nieujarzmione, published in 1957. Full of pics of the uprising. I'll try to reproduce some pics of captured uniforms...in the next days.


                    Carles

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by me6_130 View Post
                      I bought an old book in Warsaw, back in the late 80's (before the Wall fell) Miasto Nieujarzmione, published in 1957. Full of pics of the uprising. I'll try to reproduce some pics of captured uniforms...in the next days.


                      Carles

                      Thank you Carles,

                      this will be nice to see some good, period made pictures.

                      Polish insurgents in Warsaw used various types of uniforms. Begining from those converted from civil clothes, suits, then polish combat uniforms that were hidden by many soldiers since 1939 and then by many types of captured German uniforms, camouflages, and even those ones that were tailored from fabrics that they had from many sources.

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