before I put this cap on the E-Stand ... I would appreciate a overall OK on it :-)
Thank you,
Marc
Thank you,
Marc
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Hi guy's No-one has any idea if this cap is original or not ? I have mixed feelings and need the "experts" opinion before I put it on the e-stand... Or not ...
I post a few more pictures.Comment
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If you need detailed pictures, let me know ...Comment
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Just my honest opinion : the piping looks more tarnished than the rest of the cap, almost aluminium... Any chance for it being a converted officer cap ?Comment
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Mark, to be honest I have my doubts. From the construction it looks like an early to mid-war Erel, but I have never seen that particular VLW logo on a cap, and some of the construction details seem a little off. I am hoping that Stonemint and Ben VK will chime in. If it is a fake, it is a damned good one.
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I agree, re-built cap.
Easiest "tell" is the wartime air-cushion sweatband with a Voss Str address (the LVA moved from this address in 1937 to accommodate the new Reichskanzlei.)NEC SOLI CEDITComment
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Thank you guy's for your help. here another picture of the sweatband logo.
The "silver" piping is really GOLD, very tarnished but gold. I could clean it with polish and the gold colour would come back ...
So, a good cap but reconstruct ?? OK, bit what was the "original" cap then?
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Hallo Marc
Some links I hope will be useful:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=vosstrasse
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=vosstrasse
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=vosstrasse
In my opinion the logo & lining are legit: a pre-war eReL sold by the Verkaufsabteilung der LW, Vosstrasse 7. I do not think that the different degrees of tarnishing are a problem. In fact, even the badges and the chincord are quite oxidized, though to a lesser extent. The same goes for the buttons and, in my humble opinion, it is highly dependent on where the visor has been preserved. At this point, given the other substantiated comments on its peculiar construction techniques, all its internal and external seams should be carefully checked. In this regard, it seems to me that, especially from shot n. 9, the seam is not perfect. If this is confirmed, then it means that the sb has been unquestionably replaced. From who, when and why, I have no ground to talk about.
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Originally posted by stonemint View Post
Could that be explained by them using up their old address stock once they had moved?Comment
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Hi again ..
Well seems to be not son convincing any-longer this is a fake ... Not even a "reconstruction"
I looked at all the stitches very carefully, like I probably did 35 years ago when I got the cap .. ( Yes, recovered the provenance and date of purchase :-)
They all look absolutely fine. The visor has triple stitches what is normal du to the visor, and the sweat band. Also there, under the silk lining, the red pencil markings .
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Hallo Marc
You say you looked at all the stitches very carefully and they all look absolutely fine. I have no doubt of this, and you have also posted a lot of close-up pictures in support of this. You are in the best place to judge because you have this visor in your hands and you own it since many years ago. I do not discuss the presence of the triple stitching, however, from what I see from the image n. 12, the intermediate vertical seam appears to me still messy. There are some dark traits: what are they? Maybe empty holes? Furthermore, the gray seams do not seem to coincide with the apex of the lower inverted V. Just my personal opinion of course.
Best regards
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The Erel patent was not granted until August 1940.
The "Patent Stirnschutz" logo was not used until that time.
From 1938-August 1940, the "D.R.P. angem." stamp was used (ie, patent pending).
As stated supra, the LVA moved out of the Voss Str in the fall of 1937.
The sweatband is incongruous with the rest of the hat.
The hat should have a 1/2 fold-over and 1/2 sewn sweatband.NEC SOLI CEDITComment
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