Hi all, grateful for any comments or PM's on this HG flieger blouse.
Many thanks, Paul
Many thanks, Paul
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Nice "unissued" Fliegerbluse !
Do you really think it will be issued to a soldier of the HG with a worn-damaged cuff title ? and stay with its label ?
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a very nice mid/late war fliegerbluse, eagle looks pre 45 applied as does the ct a very nice example imo
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I like the tunic and the eagle. Could you get a close up of the collar tabs. Although it look the same thread used to construct the collar, it look that it may had been handstitched?
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Hi all, many thanks for the feedback.
Nick - with regard to the cuff-title the seller has informed me that it is in excellent condition but has darkened with age/ storage. In 70 years who knows what happened, maybe someone spilt coffee on it at some point?! The label was found in the pocket, I don't suppose there is nay way of proving after all these years that it has always been with it but the seller says it has been with it for a number of years that he knows of (in various collections).
Juan - interesting observation. That's the best shot of the front of the collar tabs I have for now. I can see the lines of stitching at the rear are imperfect with slightly different stitch lengths, but (in my opinion) I would think that would be down to human error - i.e the speed the operator is moving the cloth as he/ she is adding the tabs (perhaps swerving around the under-collar button if that was added first etc). Looking at the front shot of the tabs (2nd picture in the sequence) I can see lots of examples of this in the actual construction of the blouse itself - e.g on the left lapel immediately underneath the left collar tab there is quite a discrepancy between the stitch lengths on the collar edge and the edge of the lapel directly underneath.
I appreciate the observation however, I probably wouldn't have noticed that at all. You have keen eyes!
Any other comments/ observations (or PM's) will be greatefully received !!!
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And coffee only on the CT ? not on the sleeve ?
You're right , who knows after all ...
But the CT is not sewn with the same thread as the collar patches ?
So not sewn at the same time ? who knows ...
Original jacket + original badges but married together when ?
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So the white lettering on the cuff-title discoloured, whilst the white waffenfarbe on the schulterstucke and the kragenspiegel remained pristine?Originally posted by PaulW View Post
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Clearly the laws of physics were suspended in its place of storage.
There is, of course, an alternate (and somewhat more plausible) explanation for this most unusual aging process .........................
The fact that the cufftitle has been "with it for a number of years" does not preclude it being added in the 1980's. Such words are 'soft' on authenticity and allow enormous wiggle room for avoiding arguments of 'misrepresentation'.
These are just my opinions, of course.
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It is sometimes interesting to read these kinds of threads and to contrast what one is alleged to have written versus what one has actually written.
The person that started this thread indicated that I stated that the cuff title had "darkened with age and storage" when in fact I made no such claim either in the item's description nor in our private communication. Another person wrote:
The fact that the cufftitle has been "with it for a number of years" does not preclude it being added in the 1980's. Such words are 'soft' on authenticity and allow enormous wiggle room for avoiding arguments of 'misrepresentation'.
But none of the statements in the sentences above can be found in the item's description nor in any comments I made to inquiring parties. From reading this "quote" one would think I had made these claims and I certainly have not. By the way, I think the "coffee" idea a bit silly.
The fact is - I have no idea why the sleeveband lettering is darkened. The only comment made in the sales description about this matter is: "...the sleeveband lettering appears to have darkened…" Does that seem like over-the-top marketing type of verbiage?
As to the question of the paper tag, it is certainly within the realm of possibility that a paper tag could have remained with the garment. Here is a link to another example owned formerly that was used over its service life with tag attached (apologies for the quality of these old photos).
http://www.virtualgrenadier.com/museum_item.php?iid=170
I can understand why folks are generally wary and am happy to have offerings discussed but it seems to me that this should be done presuming some basic level of fairness.Comment
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