Rare Luftwaffe Flying Jacket? Pics

[Buco]

Hi all, stumbled across this forum whilst doing a bit of research on an old jacket i picked up, i believe its possibly a very old Luftwaffe Jacket (although no insignia's)

Ive had a couple of similar jackets before but they Hartmann type jackets, ive not seen one of this style before (double breasted) so was hoping one of the experts on here might be able to throw more light on it, i understand Luftwaffe jackets were mostly private purchase jackets so this is possibly the same.

Its a beautiful jacket, let me know any thoughts

Thank you very much

[hs132]

Hello, impossible call in my opinion. Nice zips, old leather, worn back of right sleeve(?replaced), at least its not built up with multiple medal/eagle loops. Best, Bill

[Luftm40]

I actually like this jacket. It has wear in all of the right places for a flight jacket. I like the lining as well. Many of the commercial jackets procured by the Luftwaffe were worn w/ no insignia. It isn't dolled up w/ eagles and award loops...and I like that! Without provenance, though, there is no way to know. If I owned this, I would scour the photographic sources to find one being worn.

[frank savage]

Hi there!

Hi all, stumbled across this forum whilst doing a bit of research on an old jacket i picked up, i believe its possibly a very old Luftwaffe Jacket (although no insignia's)

The germans aircrew have used lots of private purchasing leather jackets, often used instead of the official supply. But a civilian-born leather jacket is still a civilian jacket if there's not convincing case of its life among the luftwaffe.

Ive had a couple of similar jackets before but they Hartmann type jackets, ive not seen one of this style before (double breasted)

The feature of the leather jacket used was quite 'enormous'. There's also lots of famed pilot that wore a double breasted jacket, like Marseille and Seiler - all flapped pocket the first and all zipped the second one - both with the same buttons of your. As you can imagine the jacket design followed lots of fashion and matched lots of features....

The problem is the same: an old jacket, even if looks close to some wore by luftwaffe crew, without appropriate regalia sewn on, traches of it nor a sort of pedigree, is only an old jacket, maybe made for sure in WWII but most probably wore by a French or German biker but without to have ever taken the 'street of the sky'!

Cheers!

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Nothing that indicates luftwaffe, so not a LW jacket.

Buttons not original to the tunic!

[frank savage]

Hi, Kaiser!

Probably you're right about buttons, and the 'original' one was darker as the studs on the flap pocket and wrist. Anyway this kind of buttons was often used on this type of jacket. Buco can check it out and see if there's also old thread or holes behind the buttons ...

[pablo10]

a nice jacket but impossible to be sure its luftwaffe and i agree the buttons are newish.

[Jos L C]

Jackets like this can be closed 2 different ways IMO and the way it is displayed it's not closing how it should be, look at the wear.
Orginally these types were for open cars IMO, they came with breeches and leather cap, typical of these are the double row of buttons.
hard to tell, but the scuffing on the shoulders and wrinkled areas around the waist is not something found with a motorcycle jacket, could have a chance.

Jos.

[HJ-Marseille]

Leather jacket

looks like a " BDM Kletterweste" to me ...a lot of them offered on the .bay.
but thats only my humble opinion