Hermann Goring Cuff Title

[Jimmy]

Hermann Goring Cuff Title
Moth Eaten
Why is it so short ? Cut offf ?
Real ?[/

[Richard P]

Looks real and cut off, or excess trimmed leaving only the name.

Richard

[Willi Z.]

Sometimes the vets cut them to put in a scrapbook, etc. Or it was so damaged someone trimmed it to save the lettering.

[OSS]

Not an original IMO.

[Leroy]

I share OSS' opinion.

[Willi Z.]

Oooppps, you guys are certainly correct. Here I am looking at moth holes and not the poor quality lettering....

[Richard P]

Are you guys sure? The lettering has lots of moth feeding on it. I merely looked at the "G" on the end, and didn't think the fakes used the small letter on the end. I did not bother to look at any real embroidery for comparison, thinking who would save the moth holed lettering and center band section from a fake and to what end? A lot of the lettering has lost the edge due to the moths, giving it a crappy embroidery appearance.

I will of course concede failure on my part.

Richard

[Richard P]

Here is the latest war example I have on a wrap. It is not that dissimilar to the embroidery on the one posted. I have seen much worse embroidery and still judged original. There are some really crappy embroidered ones on various blue and black backgrounds in a number of books.

I don't see why anyone would bother to cut out a fake, with even the lettering moth eaten. If real it is not worth a whole lot more than a couple of Starbucks coffees.

Richard

[Richard P]

2.

[Leroy]

Are you guys sure?

I haven't been sure about anything since around 1976!

The things that struck me about this CT (even after taking into consideration the moths) were the 'scantiness' of the embroidery and the color and apparent thinness of the cloth itself. I think the color is too pale (not faded) and the cloth
too insubstantial (even if late war) for CT use. (I did see an officer HG title once in George Petersen's collection on a pale blue, but the cloth material was entirely different, perhaps moleskin.)

I've given up on trying to determine exactly all the "correct" types of HG titles because there are so many, and the "markers" used for letter formation, etc. are not always reliable or consistant. That said, and having had dozens of LW CT's, from pre-war all the way to the end, this CT just strikes me as "too cheap" in appearance. Just a "gut" call, and nothing more.

Won't upset me to be wrong.

[Willi Z.]

Two completely different styles and quality of lettering. I don't even know where to start.

[OSS]

Hermann Goring cufftitles are difficult to authenticate simply because there are so many variations due to the use of numerous different contractors. The example here however is inferior to any type I believe to be genuine. Even with the insect damage you can see how spindly and irregular the letters are and notice how the horizontal members of the letter "G" point in opposite directions. Some reproductions have been around long enough that damage has occured to them as well.

[Richard P]

I don't disagree with any of the comments by Leroy and OSS and Willi. I have seen some pathetic HG embroidered CT's that are original, possibly foreign made. I believe there is a story behind this one that might be worth sharing. I have seen some terrible looking stuff from vets, and some killer looking fakes from dealers.

I just don't see the reason to save such a scrap unless original, but that is just me.

Richard

[Gene]

For me, a good albeit heavily worn cut down original

[Leroy]

A difference of opinions on an HG item....I am shocked!